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To: Alter Kaker

AK, I've read some of your comments on other threads. (I like the Russian one) Very impressed, you're a good debater. But you've met your match.

But again, you are on the wrong side of the argument as a conservative. Research Frank Mayer on Google. Here is how real right wingers voted in NH. Live Free or Die:

NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIVATE PROPERTY/SMOKER BAN HB 1177:

Republicans voted against the smoking ban 117-47

Democrats voted in favor of the ban 130-47

The bill passed the NH house 177-164

It then went to the NH Senate where it failed 12-11

Republicans voted 12-2 to kill the bill and send it back to committee.

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/ie/rollcall/rollcallsbyvotedetail.asp?sessionyear=2006&voteno=56&body=S

Democrats supported the smoking ban 9-0.

Join the rest of us on the right before they ban something that you enjoy but is not good for you.


549 posted on 10/26/2006 8:11:11 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 ("Government is not the solution to the problem; government is the problem."--Ronald Reagan)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
But again, you are on the wrong side of the argument as a conservative....NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIVATE PROPERTY/SMOKER BAN HB 1177....

Charming, however utterly besides the point. I've never argued in favor of banning smoking, just that smoking is a terrible, dangerous, costly addiction that should be margianalized and discouraged everywhere.

Additionally, nearly 1/3 of Republican legislators in heavily-libertarian New Hampshire voted in favor of the ban you cited. Doesn't sound like a real ideological lithmus test to me.

550 posted on 10/26/2006 8:20:40 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Of course the bill you're talking about has nothing to do with the health effects of passive smoke.

You're now making a libertarian argument about private property rights -- and apparently conceding your earlier, absurd argument that second hand smoke is harmless.

It very clearly isn't.

551 posted on 10/26/2006 8:22:11 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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