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To: Jaguarbhzrd

It is unbelievable that evos want creos to utilize their false data to disprove their original lie in order to be considered legit. Of course, if the case was ever made that the lie was exposed by utilizing the evos data the claim would go out that the data was from an insane scientist.


883 posted on 09/25/2006 11:51:14 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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False data?

Do you mean that dinosaur fossils do not exist, or the Genetic markers within DNA does not exist? Are you saying that archeopterix does not exist? That the skulls that show common descent, are indeed fakes?

Are you saying that all the evidence that shows that evolution is indeed what happened, and is happening is all false? That there is a great conspiracy of scientists, and microbiologists, and Geneticists, archeologists, paleontologists, etc, that are all keeping the secret that evolution really isn't true, and that the evidence they have they create from whole cloth?

Wow, now that's a conspiracy. LOL

And you sir are just out there. LOL


888 posted on 09/26/2006 12:05:04 AM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: taxesareforever
Can I borrow this?

It is unbelievable that evos want creos to utilize their false data to disprove their original lie in order to be considered legit. Of course, if the case was ever made that the lie was exposed by utilizing the evos data the claim would go out that the data was from an insane scientist.

Evos trot out a lie as truth and when truth is presented it is denied as being false because their scientists (who back up the lie) won't disprove their findings. Actually, their assumptions.


Actually though it happens every day on these forums.

W.
1,061 posted on 09/26/2006 2:47:06 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: taxesareforever
"It is unbelievable that evos want creos to utilize their false data to disprove their original lie in order to be considered legit. Of course, if the case was ever made that the lie was exposed by utilizing the evos data the claim would go out that the data was from an insane scientist."

The only way that Creation 'scientists' can obtain their 'a priori' conclusion is to warp and mangle existing natural laws and produce mind boggling 'just so' stories that make any 'Adaptationist' evidence based conjecture look positively factual.

To explain the Noachian flood they create a large water canopy without explaining the mechanism preventing the canopy from descending until needed, then ignore the heat generated by that amount of water falling in 40 days. They assume such an extreme form of uniformitarianism that no tectonic plate movement happened before the flood and then such extreme catastrophism that all current mountain ranges were formed within a few years(centuries) after the flood, neither of which fit in with the actual evidence. Again the creation scientists ignore the massive heat that would be generated by such large masses moving those distances in such a short time.

Creation scientists require the SToE to abide by a mistaken interpretation of the Second law of Thermodynamics yet willingly change such universal constants as the speed of light and gravity. They ignore the consequences of making changes such as the decay rates of the materials used in radiometric dating.

Creation scientists not only play fast and loose with the currently well tested and universally accepted physical laws, they make up their own laws, laws which have not been tested but simply asserted, which they then arbitrarily apply when it becomes necessary to limit some mechanism of Evolution.

The reason we require science to be refuted by science is because the laws and mechanisms have all been tested multiple times by different groups of scientists, many who would like nothing better than to prove someone else wrong.

Creation scientists on the other hand do not try to prove each other wrong by examining and critiquing each other's work but indiscriminately accept and praise anything that looks remotely like it attacks Evolution.

Everything that we have evidence for, and everything we have an explanation for in the SToE has to and does fit in with all the physical laws of our universe. No laws have to be ignored, no physical evidence has to be hand waved away, no twisting and shouting is needed to fit the theory to the evidence. Evolution and the SToE simply fit the evidence.

The wild stories Creation scientists come up with to explain all of the events in the Bible are memorable for their imagination but not for their science.

1,073 posted on 09/26/2006 3:27:24 PM PDT by b_sharp (Objectivity? Objectivity? We don't need no stinkin' objectivity.)
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