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To: Doctor Stochastic

No, I do not disagree w/ Dembski's characterization.

Intelligent design, the "Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory", is a fundamental religious doctrine of Christainity. Although the fundamental doctrine of intelligent design/creation is essential to Christainity, it is not synonymous. Intelligent design is not synonymous with any other specific religious theistic view of the world either.

We do take expound great effort in defining words on these threads...: )

Evolution is a fundamental doctrine of secular humanism. Evolution is essential to the faith of secular humanism. About every 10th line in the either Humanist Manifesto I or II is evidence of that.



1,199 posted on 09/27/2006 6:53:04 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector
Evolution is a fundamental doctrine of secular humanism. Evolution is essential to the faith of secular humanism. About every 10th line in the either Humanist Manifesto I or II is evidence of that.

The word "evolution" or a variant thereof occurs twice in the Humanist Manifesto II and never occurs in Humanist Manifesto I. Humanist Manifesto I does state that humans emerged from "natural processes", but the majority of the document is an affirmation of lack of belief in the supernatural. It does not seem that the theory of evolution is "essential" to such a declaration. Humanist Manifesto II is primarily a declaration of social and economic beliefs. I see no need for the theory of evolution in the declaration of their stated principles.

Humanist Manifesto III, the successor to the Humanist Manifesto, mentions evolution exactly once, with the rest of the document focused upon stating the moral and social beliefs of the writers. That particular document appears to have a socialistic bent, but the theory of evolution is not required for any of the expressed socialistic views.
1,204 posted on 09/27/2006 7:15:43 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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