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To: Jaguarbhzrd

The first idea one must accept if one presupposes that "matter is all there is" is that life arose spontaneously from non-living matter by natural random process. Either the first life came from non-life or it came from something outside of nature. Spontaneous generation is essential for the evolutionist. According to Sir Julian Huxley, a primary architect of modern neo-Darwinism, it is evolution is 'that links inorganic nature to life'.

"It is essential for evolution to become the central core of any educational system, because it is evolution, in the broad sense, that links inorganic nature to life, and the stars with with earth, and matter and mind, and animals to man."

--Julian Huxley.

"from the inorganic spontaneously, that is, without supernatural intervention and by the operation of material process, themselves of unknown origin, sometime during the first billion years or so of the earth's existence"

--George Gaylord Simpson

"Here we are, evolved though unaccounted ages from the inter-reaction of chemical and energies. Is this not the most awe-inspiring downright spine-tingling drama that can be conceived"

--Lloyd and Mary Morian

"The first living things were not anything so complex as a one celled organism, already a highly sophisticated form of life. The first stirrings wer much more humble. In early days, lightning and ultraviolet light from the Sun were breaking apart the simple hydrogen-rich molecules of the primitive atmosphere, the fragments spontaneously recombining into more and more complex molecules. The products of this early chemistry were dissolved in the oceans, forming a kind of organic soup of gradually increasing complexity, until one day, quite by accident, a molecule arose that the was able to make crude copies of itself, using building blocks other molecules in the soup."

--Carl Sagan


"Once upon a time, very long ago, perhaps two and half billion years ago, under a deadly sun, in an ammoniniated ocean topped by a poisonous atmopshere, in the midst of a soup of organic molecules, a nucleic acid molecule came accidentally into being that could somehow bring about the existence of another like itself--And from that all else would follow"

--Issac Asimov


"It has become an accepted doctrine that life never arise except from life. So far as actual evidence goes, this is still the only possible conclusion. But since the conclusion that seems to lead back to some supernatural creative act, it is a conclusion that scientific men find very difficult of acceptance."

--J.W.N Sullivan


1,166 posted on 09/26/2006 11:09:47 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector

Well, no matter how much you read on abiogenesis, it still has nothing to do with evolution.

Evolution does not care about abiogenesis, or how the first living creature that procreated came into being, all it cares about, is that it did.

It in no way shape or form disproves evolution.

It was a nice try though, delusional, but a nice try.


1,171 posted on 09/26/2006 11:27:33 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: FreedomProtector
The first idea one must accept if one presupposes that "matter is all there is" is that life arose spontaneously from non-living matter by natural random process.

The theory of evolution does not presuppose that "matter is all there is", thus your premise for claiming that abiogenesis is a part of the theory is false.
1,201 posted on 09/27/2006 6:56:01 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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