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To: taxesareforever
To explain the Noachian flood they create a large water canopy without explaining the mechanism preventing the canopy from descending until needed, then ignore the heat generated by that amount of water falling in 40 days.

Certainly beats "It all happened because of a Big Bang". I wonder if someone with a bong was the initiator of this smoke in my eyes scenario and it was mistakenly named "Big Bang" instead of "Big Bong".

Take a look at this site. This should keep the hands waving for weeks (if you actually read anything, which I very strongly doubt):

Problems with a Global Flood, Second Edition, by Mark Isaak.

It just didn't happen! All the evidence points to that conclusion, including some I found myself. Ask me about it, if you dare. Warning: the creationist websites have no rebuttal to this evidence.

1,134 posted on 09/26/2006 8:37:15 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
Take a look at this site

What a joke! You don't want us to utilize creationist sites but you demand that we put up with the garbage from evo sites, such as this that evos claim as fact. Talk about one track minds.

1,138 posted on 09/26/2006 8:54:33 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Coyoteman; taxesareforever
Take a look at this site. This should keep the hands waving for weeks (if you actually read anything, which I very strongly doubt):

Problems with a Global Flood, Second Edition, by Mark Isaak....

The flood is a true story. Every antique nation had its own account of the story and Greeks and Chinese noted that handsfull of humans and animals survived here and there on high places and anything which could float for the better part of a year, but most of the animals which survive today owe their survival to Noah.

The flood turns out to have been part and parcel of some larger, solar-system-wide calamity.

In particular, the seven days just prior to the flood are mentioned twice within a short space:

Gen. 7:4 "For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights;...

Gen. 7:10 "And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth."

These were seven days of intense light, generated by some major cosmic event within our system. The Old Testament contains one other reference to these seven days, i.e. Isaiah 30:26:

"...Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days..."

Most interpret this as meaning cramming seven days worth of light into one day. That is wrong; the reference is to the seven days prior to the flood. The reference apparently got translated out of a language which doesn't use articles. It should read "as the light of THE seven days".

It turns out, that the bible claims that Methuselah died in the year of the flood. It may not say so directly, but the ages given in Genesis 5 along with the note that the flood began in the 600'th year of Noah's life (Genesis 7:11) add up that way:

Gen. 5:25 ->

"And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years and begat Lamech. And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters. And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years.

<i.e. he lived 969 - 187 = 782 years after Lamech's birth>

And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years and begat a son. And he called his name Noah...

<182 + 600 = 782 also...>

Thus we have Methusaleh dying in the year of the flood; seven days prior to the flood...

Louis Ginzburg's seven-volume "Legends of the Jews", the largest body of Midrashim ever translated into German and English to my knowledge, expands upon the laconic tales of the OT.

From Ginzburg's Legends of the Jews, Vol V, page 175:

...however, Lekah, Gen. 7.4) BR 3.6 (in the week of mourning for Methuselah, God caused the primordial light to shine).... God did not wish Methuselah to die at the same time as the sinners...

The reference is, again, to Gen. 7.4, which reads:

"For yet seven days, and I shall cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights..."

The note that "God did not wish Methusaleh to die at the same time as the sinners" indicates that Methusaleh died at pretty nearly precisely the beginning of the week prior to the flood. The week of "God causing the primordial lights to shine" was the week of intense light before the flood.

What the old books are actually telling us is that there was a stellar blowout of some sort either close to or within our own system at the time of the flood. The blowout was followed by seven days of intense light and radiation, and then the flood itself. Moreover, the signs of the impending disaster were obvious enough for at least one guy, Noah, to take extraordinary precautions.

1,142 posted on 09/26/2006 9:16:54 PM PDT by tomzz
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