Posted on 09/05/2006 7:23:00 PM PDT by ShaunMcDonnell
According to Fox 35, Charlie Crist is the winner of the Republican Primary for Governor.
Time for us to get behind him.
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Don't ping me anymore.
Why? You're trolling. You're campaigning against the Republican in the general election. You're trying to divide the base with your Terry Schiavo crap. You're a troll and I'm in your face. I'm sure you don't like being called for what you are; troll.
According to the autopsy, her medical records showed no sign of bulimia, and her body had none of the damage caused by bulimia. IOW, she wasn't bulimic. Which, coincidentally, is what Michael said, until he found out he might get rich by claiming she was. The doctor who was accused of overlooking her "bulimia" was cleared of the malpractice charge, because she wasn't bulimic.
Even if it hadn't been proven that she wasn't bulimic, that wouldn't justify killing her.
Terri's medical records indicated she was brain damaged. The portion of her CT scan that was released to the press by Michael showed the most severe area of damage. He didn't release the other slides, because they showed portions of her brain that were much healthier.
Schiavo's doctors and the doctors chosen by Greer did in fact testify against her. The doctor who had taken care of her prior to Schiavo hooking up with Felos was fired by Schiavo, because he didn't approve of Schiavo's plan to kill a woman who was aware.
Schiavo's doctors and Greer's doctors all testified that Terri was aware. Most of them testified that she was not very responsive, but she was mildly responsive. The doctor who actually performed the examination that would determine if she was PVS according to The American Medical Assosciation's guidelines, testified that she was more responsive than the other doctors gave her credit for. Greer threw his testimony out, and mischaracterized the testimony of the other doctors in his ruling. If you were to read only his ruling, you wouldn't know that the testimony differed from his claims. Many people have based their opinions on his stated opinion, rather than on the actual evidence.
Even the many courts that reviewed the case, never once reviewed the evidence. The so-called interference by Congress that so many people were upset about, was simply a demand that the court review the evidence, for the first time ever. If after reviewing the evidence, the court determined that Greer's order was valid, then that would have been the final decision. They weren't asked to overturn the decision. Congress didn't over-ride Greer's order. They simply ordered the court to do its job, and review the evidence. The court once again refused to review the evidence.
Your accusations of video tampering are old, and unproven.
No rational person would rather die than have their limbs amputated, if it came down to it. Even an animal will chew its own leg off to get out of a trap. It's called self preservation. Normal people would rather live with disabilities, than die a torturous death.
The Schindlers are Catholic, as was Terri. They all believe(d) in the sanctity of life. Terri expressed her views on many occasions, indicating she valued life. Her family should not be required to stop valuing life to prove that Terri did value life. It's extremely unlikely that Terri would have wanted one of her family members killed, any more than her family wanted her killed. The fact that her family would have held onto their beliefs, even in the hypothetical situation in which Terri stopped believing in everything she ever believed in, is not proof that Terri didn't take her own beliefs seriously. Your reasoning on that is flawed.
The woman, Terri Schiavo, had a Constitutional right to live. Governor Bush had a Constitutional duty to protect her life. I don't think our Constitution is a circus. I don't take people seriously when they say that it is. I don't take them seriously when they hate an innocent woman they don't even know, so much that they call her a vegetable, and advocate starving and dehydrating her to death because of it.
Many of the people who supported Terri, were never part of any pro-life movement before. Many people who are divided on when life begins, and whether or not to provide extraordinary medical care in various situations, were shocked and appalled at the killing of a brain damaged, but otherwise healthy young woman. Most of us never met her, but then again, neither did you, or Judge Greer. The average blogger saw more of the evidence than Greer did. He was blind. He hid that fact from the Schindlers, while Schiavo's attorneys took advantage of it. He couldn't see the videos of Terri, and they were muted so he couldn't hear them either. He never saw her. Not even on film. The only people who saw Terri and still advocated her death, were those who made a profit from it. Some of the people who could have made a profit from her death, chose to support her instead.
For many years, Schiavo hid the bone scan report that revealed Terri had been repeatedly traumatized, and had many broken bones to prove it. Her family didn't have x-ray vision, so they didn't know about the broken bones until they saw the radiologist's report. A bunch of total strangers didn't have ESP, and know about the broken bones before the report surfaced. That has to be your silliest theory yet.
The Schindlers did not claim that Terri said "I want to live." Barbara Weller was pushing Terri to say "I want to live." Terri wasn't able to form the words, but she yelled "Ahhhh." After a short pause she yelled louder "wahhh." The police officer guarding the door came in, and stated she had heard what Terri said. She later recanted her statement. The Schindlers didn't forget to bring a camera. It wasn't the first time they didn't bring a camera. They did not film every minute they spent with her, and then whittle down years of video into a few minutes. They were forbidden to bring a camera. They were searched. They were threatened with not being allowed to see Terri in her final days if they broke any of the ridiculous rules imposed on them and Terri.
It should actually be noted that the law Governor George Bush signed was supported by pro-life advocates. It was never intended to be abused the way it is now. It was never intended to be used to kill non-terminal patients. It was intended to allow doctors to withdraw futile care. It has been bastardized to mean that people can be declared futile. There is a difference, but apparently a large majority of people are incapable of understanding that difference.
Tom Delay didn't lie. He told the truth about what he saw, and what everyone else saw. Yes, I said everyone. Some people didn't like what they saw when they looked at Terri, so they lied. They made wild claims about corpses breathing, laughing for no reason, and groaning. The truth is, dead bodies don't do those things.
DeLay's father's situation was very different from Terri's. "When the man's kidneys failed, the DeLay family decided against connecting him to a dialysis machine. 'Extraordinary measures to prolong life were not initiated,' said his medical report, citing "agreement with the family's wishes." His chart carried the instruction: 'Do Not Resuscitate.' " ( http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002221334_delay27.html ) They did not deprive him of food, water, or air. They didn't hook him up to dialysis, put him on a transplant list, or resuscitate him when his heart stopped. So much for your theory that Terri's supporters were rabid "life-at-any-cost" loonies.
On Larry King Live, Schiavo stated that he didn't know what Terri wanted, but he wanted her feeding tube removed. He had told the same thing to a couple of his girl friends. Was he lying then? Was he lying when he contradicted those statements?
Yes, a lot of people were upset over the killing of an innocent woman. It's not surprising that some of them were overwrought. It's not surprising that there were people from all walks of life, moved to action, on behalf of a helpless woman. It's not surprising that some of them engaged in desparate acts. It's not surprising that they could care for this one woman, and recognize the precedent that was being set. It's not surprising that her detractors would paint all of her supporters as a fringe element, rather than discuss the heart of the matter. She wasn't allowed to die. She was forced to die.
Your paragraph about the autopsy is packed full of lies. Terri's brain, after dehydration, had shrunk. The medical examiner stated that the autopsy could neither rule out, nor confirm PVS, as that is a clinical diagnosis. The evidence of abuse was not a subject of the autopsy, and was not addressed. The bulimia was ruled out.
Your hatred toward Christians is noted, but it's no substitute for facts. I'm not at all surprised that you're glad Christians suffered a loss, but you're wrong if you think you won. You lost more than any of us. We still have our souls.
I see you're still holding that grudge.
Diana Lynne's coverage was very thorough and accurate. Thanks for posting the link.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1695656/posts
Crist wants Alex Sink in there because she's an Emily's Lister and worked with the only girl Crist has known recently: Katie Pemble.
You get democrats with Crist or democrats with Davis. Take your pick. Crist fooled a whole lot of republicans.
I so know about the Terri Schiavo case. Did you have another screen name too?
Find a republican to gaze at, Charlie!
Conservative voters need to be more careful before pulling that lever. I do hope this doesn't happen in the POTUS Republican primary.
???? Don't understand this post to me. I supported Gallagher and do work to get conservatives elected, so I don't understand your post.
BTW....you can ping me anytime....:) LOL!!!!
TERRI SCHIAVO IS DEAD!!! GET OVER IT!!!
Read and learn: http://www.sptimes.com/2005/06/15/schiavoreport.pdf
"Diana Lynne's coverage was very thorough and accurate."
Anyone who SINCERELY wants to know the truth should read it, but too many are in denial.
"Sun says: FL RIGHT-TO-LIFE ENDORSED GALLAGHER! So did Dobson. Maybe that's a clue, ya think?
Happy Valley Dude says: Exactly. The clue is that voters looked at both candidates and overwhelmingly rejected those endorsements."
So you're telling me that even the Republican Floridians aren't pro-life? That is sad, very sad, indeed.
I don't think that's true, though. I think it's just they didn't do their research, and that's my message to every state in the country: DO YOUR RESEARCH - NO MORE RINOS
"Are you a democrat, what is your agenda today? Your silence of your future intent about Crist speaks volumes of your character."
ROFL. I'm from NYS. I already explained WHY I want CONSERVATIVE Republicans in EVERY state. Modern history shows us that presidents have been former GOVERNORS. My goal, is to support CONSERVATIVES in every state. Otherwise, some day, we will have a "choice" between a LIBERAL Democrat, and a LIBERAL Repblican.
I even contributed $$ to CONSERVATIVE Brut Schundler's campaign in New Jersey for their governor's race, and called a talk show in his behalf.
Conservative voters need to be more careful before pulling that lever. I do hope this doesn't happen in the POTUS Republican primary.
Voters who vote for liberals, or don't do research on the candidates, will get the government they deserve.
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