Top 10 Pot Studies Government Wished it Had Never Funded

freetheplant.com ^ | August 31st, 2006 | sonofliberty

[Dead Corpse]

It's cruel. But note that not one damn drug law saved this child.

What is even more cruel is treating the other 300 million of us, who are not drug users, as criminals. We do anything suspicious... No knock raid. We have a "similar" address, our spouse gets shot, our dogs die, and possibly even our kids in an unConstitutional case of mistaken identity. Our every purchase is subject to flagging and tracking. Our electrical bills are tagged and monitored. Gods forbid you try and do something like set up a hydropoinic garden...

All so some of you can feel better about advocating MORE government power to stop "those people" from doing "icky things".

After all, if innocent people have to die for you to make your play for your unobtainable utopia... so be it.

[dirtboy]

Your problem is that your preconceived biases will not allow your mind to absorb the fact that there are many people who don't use pot who are against the War on Some Drugs.

I used pot some when I was younger. I learned two things:

Some pot users can smoke the stuff and still function well in their jobs or their educations, and

I was not one of them.

However, since I did observe that a lot of folks I knew could deal with weed, I didn't blame pot for the fact I couldn't - different people have different receptors, different brains and different reactions. So one instead must look at the cost/benefit relationships of banning a substance versus having it legal.

Meth, no way. Heroin and coke, dittoes.

But weed is actually not as bad as alcohol in the problems it causes society, both to the individuals who use it and their impact on others who do not. It is royally stupid to criminalize it. Colorado decriminalized it years ago and that is a smart approach to it. It frees up jail space and law enforcement resources to go after other problems that have a far more pronounced societal impact.

[dirtboy]

The problem with talking with potheads are that they are potheads.

Yep, it's better just to declare your opponents potheads. It sure beats having a comprehensive and defensible position of your own.

[Perisylph]

Well, why make that line if there is no reason for it?

Additionally, I guarantee you that 99.9% of people in jail have already broken the law by speeding on a highway.

[Perisylph]

Very much in agreement. Pot (after about a year) was not enjoyable for me. But I (and everybody else I know) did not go through any "pot withdrawal" - nor did I ever hear of somebody breaking a (real) law, killing themselves, or somebody else while they were high. And yet I personally know 10 people that caused either their own death or somebody else's while they were drunk.

[Perisylph]

Very much in agreement. Pot (after about a year) was not enjoyable for me. But I (and everybody else I know) did not go through any "pot withdrawal" - nor did I ever hear of somebody breaking a (real) law, killing themselves, or somebody else while they were high. And yet I personally know 10 people that caused either their own death or somebody else's while they were drunk.

[Mojave]

But note that not one damn drug law saved this child.

So let's expand the availability of dope so more children can be sacrificed for the sake of anarchy and drugs?

No thanks.

[APFel]

Yep, it's better just to declare your opponents potheads. It sure beats having a comprehensive and defensible position of your own.

Look, if you want a comprehensive and defensible position out of me, go look through my post history. I have already been 'round and 'round with the hemp constituency here on FR. It's like asking water not to be wet.

So whatever. They want their weed and they want the g'mnt to not arrest them for it. They drone on and on about "rights" but don't say boo about ACTUAL lost liberties such as eminent domain and leftist speech codes. It's all about the pot.

APf

[Dead Corpse]

No. Let's decriminalize it so that people stop getting poison instead of the drug they think they are taking. Let's completely destroy the underground culture of drug lords and pushers who would sell to kids. Let's get rid of the unConstitutional abuse of power. Let's keep real criminals in prison instead of packing them with one time drug users on mandatory sentences.

Personally, I think anyone who is stupid enough to use drugs like this are dooming themselves. But then again, it's their life. They should be able to end it when they want to, as long as they don't try and take anyone else with them.

[Mojave]

Let's decriminalize it so that people stop getting poison instead of the drug they think they are taking.

Let's decriminalize it so that people getting poison instead of the drug they think they are taking will buy more of such poisons.

[Dead Corpse]

You just don't understand the illogic of putting a gun to someones head to keep them from taking poison do you...

Let them kill themselves.

I know you get a woody everytime you think of some cop kicking in a door at 2AM, but come on. This is pretty dense every for you drug war fans.

[dirtboy]

So whatever. They want their weed and they want the g'mnt to not arrest them for it. They drone on and on about "rights" but don't say boo about ACTUAL lost liberties such as eminent domain and leftist speech codes.

Like heck. A lot of the groups opposed to federal pot laws and in favor of decriminalization also work long and hard for other Constitutional rights. You, however, are the typical cafeteria conservative, who believes in limited government as long as it doesn't limit what you want government to do.

[Mojave]

You just don't understand the illogic of putting a gun to someones head to keep them from taking poison do you...

Putting "a gun" to the pushers' heads upsets you.

[Mojave]

A lot of the groups opposed to federal pot laws and in favor of decriminalization also work long and hard for other Constitutional rights.

Like sodomy, gay marriage and welfare?

[Dead Corpse]

Putting a gun to anyones head while they are going about the business of killing themselves seems a bit, stupid.

It's the collateral damage to our Rights, the rest of us who DON'T use drugs, that upsets me.

[Dead Corpse]

Sodomy. None of your business. What are you going to do next? Cameras in bedrooms for approved procreational missionary style sex only?

Gay Marriage. Religion. Get the State out of it all together. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one.

Welfare. End it.

Actually, I think the other poster may have been referring to free speech, private property Rights, 2A Rights, ect...

Not that a troll like you cares one wit as long as you Agent Provocateur status is intact.

[dirtboy]

Like sodomy, gay marriage and welfare?

No, such as gun rights, 4th amendment rights, and First Amendment rights.

[Mojave]

Putting a gun to anyones head while they are going about the business of killing themselves

Pushers are enriching themselves, peddling the poisons you advocate.

[Mojave]

No, such as gun rights, 4th amendment rights, and First Amendment rights.

Doesn't sound very Berkeley, San Francisco and NORML.

[Dead Corpse]

So are drug companies. I don't see you advocating killing the executives of Merck or Pfizer.

Nice try at a smear there Roscoe. I think people using drugs like these are idiots and I do not advocate that anyone use them habitually. However, I do not feel it is my place to tell them not to either. Further, I KNOW that this job description isn't in the Constitution ANYWHERE for the FedGov to be running a "Drug War".