Save America with the ‘Fair Tax Act’

The Courier ^ | August 31,2006 | Gordon Bishop

[Man50D]

Abolish the federal income tax!

No more taxes on savings and investments!

A "Fair Tax" can completely fund the federal government, Social Security and Medicare!

You control how much you spend!

So what are we waiting for?

You, the taxpayers of America burdened with an income tax that is costly, wasteful and sinking America into inevitable bankruptcy. All current forms of federal taxation would end! You would keep 100 percent of your paycheck. You control how you spend your paycheck. It's your money. You make the decisions as to how you want to spend your money.

The Fair Tax would create more jobs and give the USA a level playing field when selling overseas. United States Senator John Linder (R-Georgia) is sponsoring the "Fair Tax Act of 2005." If enacted by Congress, it would accomplish all of the above. Simple. Easy. And affordable.

It's the best way to downsize government without disrupting the economy.

To join the "Fair Tax" movement in America, just sign the "Economic Freedom & Fairness" Petition supporting forward-thinking solutions. Go to www.grassfire.net and liberate the working class of taxpayers. Grassfire is trying to give the working class the same kind of freedom America's founders gave to those who joined the American Revolution in 1776 with the "Declaration of Independence." We won the Revolutionary War, but have lost our country since the 16th Amendment (income tax) became "Law" in 1913.

[robertpaulsen]

"Why have you not done as I requested and make use of the FairTax effective tax rate calculator

What's the point?

I mean, sure, I can figure my effective tax rate today. And I can even use your phony table to figure my effective rate under the Fair Tax. So?

What's the price of the bat under the Fair Tax? You don't know. I don't know. Nobody knows.

It is manufactured locally or is it an import? Has the manufacturer reduced his price to the wholesaler? By how much? Has the wholesaler passed that savings (if any) on to the retailer? How much? Has the retailer passed on that savings (if any) to me?

What good is it to know that my effective rate went down 20% if the price I pay for the bat rose 30%?

You're piling assumption upon assumption then concluding mathematically to the thousandths of a percent that I, robertpaulsen, am going to save a gazillion dollars and so is everyone else in America. I DON'T BUY THAT.

[pigdog]

"So if I go to the store today, buy an item for $100, the store adds $6 sales tax, and I pay them $106., I'm not actually paying that tax? You're saying the store is paying that tax when they forward my $6 to the state?"

And this is the consumer's money, too - and the company forwards the consumer's money for the 6% sales tax. It's still the consumer's tax since the tax rate is levied on him and not on the company ... just as with your bogus lawyer.

Now, stop fiddle-footing around and answer my question in #1136 and #917 (if you dare).

[robertpaulsen]

"Your attempt at derision fails also since he lawyer in your bogus example is paying his own taxes"

Where did he get the money to pay those taxes? Didn't that money come from the drug dealer?

[pigdog]

And YOU'RE reduced to equivocation and game-playing in ducking what would most likely be an embarrassing (for you) disclosure that the FairTax would bring down your effective tax rate greatly (regardless of whether or not the hidden taxes were removed, even - but you obviously can't handle that.

And there's nothing "phony" about the FairTax effective tax rate calculator at all since it uses all of the figures from your own situation; take your last year's income tax data and run it through. Since your income would be the same there is no price reduction assumption made - it's as though everything is priced just as it were last year.

Not willing to do that, eh??? RIIGGHHHHT!!! Good bye.

[robertpaulsen]

"Why be so obtuse??? The answer WAS clearly stated in #1136 as the 9% described there."

Terrific! I believe we're actually starting to make some progress.

Now, before we go on, if 9% is what you call the hidden tax cost or hidden taxes, what was that 3.75% number you were throwing around? Didn't you call THAT number the hidden tax?

[robertpaulsen]

"It's still the consumer's tax since the tax rate is levied on him and not on the company"

My only concern is the amount of tax that is embedded in the price I pay for item I buy today under the current tax system. I don't care if it's the consumer's tax, the retailer's tax or the manufacturer's tax. It's embedded in the price I pay today.

Now, you've admitted that it averages at least 9%, but that 9% does not include the employee portion of FICA nor the federal income tax withholding that is embedded in the price. Would you agree that those two amounts add approximately another 13%, bringing the total, TODAY, to roughly 22%?