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To: olderwiser
You keep saying the same thing and your need to accuse says volumes.

Jesus didn't engineer or arrange himself being put to death. He ACCEPTED and took on the sins of men, including the sin of some men who would put him to death.,

When did Jesus 'decide ' to accept?
719 posted on 07/30/2006 8:02:57 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Yeah, I keep saying the same thing about your big bold pronouncement about no one taking Jesus's life, because you said it and you haven't explained it in light of the actual words of the Gospel.

"After they crucified him, they divided his garments..." Matthew 27:35

"Then they crucified him and divided his garments..." Mark 15:24

"When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him..." Luke 23:33

"There they crucified him, and with him two others..." John 19:18

Now, let's just extrapolate from your notion. If no one crucified him (took his life), then we can also suppose no one accused him, no one sentenced him, no one denied him, no one rejected him, because he willingly willed it all, and he is God after all...

You're an expert in nonsense. Now, defend your dumb statement in light of those quotes in all four Gospels.


721 posted on 07/31/2006 4:45:49 AM PDT by olderwiser
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To: presently no screen name

As the Gospel of Luke says, God the Father gave his son…

“God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life” (John 3:16).

Jesus agreed to suffer death in order to save men--to redeem them from their sin. That doesn’t mean no one put him death. Jesus did not fight against or otherwise try to avoid his death at the hands of men. His lived without sin to his last breath, and said from the cross “It is finished”…


722 posted on 07/31/2006 5:24:02 AM PDT by olderwiser
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