What are Darwinists so afraid of?

worldnetdaily.com ^ | 07/27/2006 | Jonathan Witt

[wintertime]

Why can't the Creationist be happy with teaching their theories in Philosophy and Religion classes

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Why can't Darwinists admit that evolution have non-neutral consequences that are PROFOUND religious, political, and cultural?

When government K-12 schools teach evolution/intelligent design/creationism, government WILL establish, uphold, promote the religious beliefs of some while actively undermining the religious traditions of others. I find this troublesome constitutionally on both the state and federal levels.

Oh,,,and please remember that evol/ID/Creationism is mere one conflict out of thousands that are no-compromise issue. The government no matter what action it takes will favor the religious beliefs of some while trashing those of others. Neither side can concede any ground. If the do they are giving away little pieces of their souls.

There is only one solution to this: Begin the process of privatizing universal K-12 education.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"You are a grouchy man."

Coming from YOU, the woman who gets grumpy at everything, that's hysterically funny! Thanks for the laugh! :)

"My guess quite OLD..."

And you would be quite wrong, as you usually are.

"and angry with some religious organization..."

Wrong again.

"and are quite determined to do whatever you possibly can to get even with the Heavenly Father."

You really need to get out more.

Please don't post to me again with your mindless drivel, or I'll get the Germ Theory after you! :)

[Just mythoughts]

Well at least I got out of you an 'age' frame!!!!!

There appears to be personal issues with the devotees of evolution.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Yes, there is debate about the points. That is why there is discussion. The mindset of those devoted to Darwinism is the same.

Most people accept Darwinism and just shrug off the idea of intelligent design. They may not readily accept ID because of the pervasiveness of the former idea, but they don't get angry when ID is brought up. I've heard them say things like "That's interesting.." or "hm, I never thought of that..."

This is not the case with devotees to Darwin. They are vehemently opposed to anyone pointing out flaws or offering the alternative point of view, almost to the point of being rabid.

No matter. None of them can touch me.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Change from 'crucified' to 'resurrected' has never been demonstrated.

There were witnesses to the resurrection.

[DoctorMichael]

What are Darwinists so afraid of?...............

Ignorance and ignorant people.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Well at least I got out of you an 'age' frame!!!!!"

Yes, I am not *quite old*. That really pegs things down...

"There appears to be personal issues with the devotees of evolution."

The only one with personal issues is you, issues you find it oddly important to share with everybody. :)

Now, go troll someone else. You obviously only pinged me to try to annoy me (though in truth you just made me laugh as you always do). :)

[Just mythoughts]

You have a good day tooooooo. I do like to have the evolutionists show their better side this early in the morning.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"You have a good day tooooooo."

I never asked you to have a good day. :)

"...I do like to have the evolutionists show their better side this early in the morning."

When are you going to return the favor and shows us your better side? All we have ever seen so far is a Flesh Man obsessed woman who likes insulting people and rewriting parts of the Bible (like saying that there were people other than Noah's family who survived the Flood, 2 Adam's, and so on...). When will this alleged *better* side appear?

[Just mythoughts]

Ah so the "Carolina" part of you is a pretend, 'Good morning, how are you kind of thing.'

PROVE I HAVE REWRITTEN ANY PART OF THE BIBLE!!!!! I won't take offense cause your accusation says more about you than it does me.

You obviously do not have a clue what is actually Written in Genesis and would not believe it if you did. You got a pretend fantasy to protect.

[xzins]

ID is testable

1. Wait for the end.

2. Run a lab test to see if any living thing can spontaneously generate out of a non-living thing?

3. Engage a group of experts to create living material from non-living, basic elements.

4. Find a mass of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence that suggests a designer.

[P-Marlowe]

So, God is like Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes? Calvin ocassionally created armies of miniature snowmen just for the pleasure of destroying them in some imaginative way.

You'd better hope not. But I will let God answer that question:

Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? (Ezekiel 33:11 KJV)

[wintertime]

Religion should be taught at home or in a private school.

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The education of children is NEVER religiously neutral. It is impossible.

So....when government does NOT include God in it curriculum, it is teaching all children that religion is shameful and must be hidden like a bathroom activity.

Can you admit that the teaching of evolution will have non-neutral religious consequences for the captive, forced attendance children in government schools?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Ah so the "Carolina" part of you is a pretend,..."

No. The *thoughts* part of you is though. :)

"PROVE I HAVE REWRITTEN ANY PART OF THE BIBLE!!!!!"

My my, you're getting touchy. Is this your *better* side? :)

You said that there were people who survived the flood other than Noah's family. That's all fine and good... but that isn't what the Bible says.

Now, go away and troll someone else. You're getting boring really fast.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"You obviously do not have a clue what is actually Written in Genesis..."

There's nothing about 2 Adams or about anybody but Noah's family surviving the Flood.

[razzle]

what are YOU so afraid of? All your Evo evidence is a shame, so lets open a discussion. ID evidence (to me):
2nd Law of thermodynamics - nothing becomes more complex without energy and intelligence
no evidence for evolution
common sense that we could not have randomly developed from a fish or worm.

[hellbender]

The association between evolution and totalitarian socialism can't be denied, and you make no attempt to deny it. You just go off on a tangent, drawing a caricature of what I said, and bringing up an issue I never mentioned--fluoridation. Fluoridation is not a big issue to me, but it does seem that artificially introducing fluoride into public water supplies is a typical collectivist program. Anyone who wants fluoride can get his own in toothpaste or other topical products, but no--elitists assume that people are too dumb to take care of themselves. They need to be force-fed.
As for conspiracy theories, one of the main issues with me is that the evo-freaks think a handful of anti-evo citizens, mostly in rural areas, are part of a grand fundamentalist plot posing a deadly threat to American science. That's hyperbole at best.

[bray]

That is the bottom line. Darwinism is nothing more than a man worship that attempts to disprove God. The historical disasters that occurred from that makes it imperative that it be proved beyond a doubt or discarded like old fish. Great post.

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"2nd Law of thermodynamics - nothing becomes more complex without energy and intelligence "

That isn't even CLOSE to being what the 2nd Law says.

"no evidence for evolution"

Only if you ignore the facts.

"common sense that we could not have randomly developed from a fish or worm."

Natural selection isn't random.

[hellbender]

I don't think Hitler had any problem with the idea that Jews and "Aryans" had a common ancestry. He thought the Jews, Gypsies, Negroes, and other races were inferior and degenerate. He also favored euthanasia to cleanse the gene pool of birth defects and other "undesirable" elements.
I suppose you think Hitler believed in "special creation" of Aryans? You guys need to get over your obsession with Darwin and study the intellectual history of socialism. This is supposed to be a conservative, political forum, after all.