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To: cowboyway

I figure that the Ridge faction got the 15 million dollars, and first shot at the 800,000 acres of land.

Stand Watie would have noticed this, and when sent to the Confederate legislature, greatly impressed southern plantation holders (who because of poor farm practices, were always looking for more virgin land further west) with his willingness to provide that virgin land at the expense of his tribe, as had other members of his family.

As such he was a "confederate" version of a scalawag, but his plans did not come to fruition due to the Union victory.


618 posted on 07/15/2006 12:38:24 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (Brother, can you Paradigm?)
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To: Donald Meaker
MORE BILGE. are you really DUMB enough to believe that??? OR are you HOPING the rest of us are????

face it, what your posting is FALSE. i will "call you on it" each time you LIE!

the FACT is that BG Stand Watie in February of 1861 had GROSS ASSETS of LESS than US $100.oo. he was so POOR that he couldn't afford to buy either a CSA uniform OR a horse, so he pinned his rank on his civilian clothes & had to borrow a "good,young, red mule" from a cousin.

wherever you are getting your "data" from is BAD information & i suspect KNOWING false on the part of the "source".

free dixie,sw

622 posted on 07/15/2006 1:05:20 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Donald Meaker; stand watie
As such he was a "confederate" version of a scalawag, but his plans did not come to fruition due to the Union victory

No. He was not the Confederate version of a scalawag.

He was the indigenous version of a Confederate. (You're an engineer?)

Stand Watie saw that trying to hold on to the Georgia land was hopelessly futile in the face of white population and treachery and made one hell of a deal for his people.

His tribal adversary, Ross, wanted to keep Watie and his followers bound to a system in which they could not prosper.

If you think about it, it quite nicely parallels the union and the Confederacy.

I think you owe Stand Watie and stand watie a sincere apology.

628 posted on 07/15/2006 1:24:12 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: Donald Meaker; All
as usual, you "figure" WRONG. what PROOF of your DUMB accusation do you HAVE???

NONE at ALL , right?? you just made that LIE up "out of whole cloth", didn't you???

$ 15,000,000 was the EXACT MOUNT of the LOUISIANA PURCHASE! (the LA PURCHASE was HUNDREDS of times LARGER than the land deal you accuse our ancestors of.) WHERE did the buyers get that kind of money in the 19th century??? (NOT that i expect an HONEST answer from you, scalawag!!!)

LOL AT YOU & your OBVIOUS, STUPID LIE!

free dixie,sw

677 posted on 07/16/2006 8:21:31 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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