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Yankee clauses dashed [Local landowner REALLY didn't like yankees...]
The Island Packet ^ | 07/06/2006 | JIM FABER

Posted on 07/06/2006 7:01:52 AM PDT by SquirrelKing

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To: presently no screen name
For many years, I was reluctant to talk to strangers. Many times I wanted to approach someone but didn't. I began talking to strangers after I became comfortable with it on the internet, in anonymity. I realized how friendly people are and how easy to get to know. The second big break came on 9/11. In its aftermath, people were open and friendly; there was a sense of family. Now I talk openly and freely with people everywhere. I love it.

I've lived many places--Europe and all over America--and have travelled everywhere. Nasties are everywhere but fortunately in the minority. Wonderful people are everywhere--and in the majority!

741 posted on 07/19/2006 7:59:08 AM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George Bush.)
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To: stand watie

I think a lot of people were unhappy with that trial, which was in large part why it stopped with that one.

There had been much death, and killing another would not bring back his, or any one else's victims.

On the other hand, there were many who's crimes were never punished. Bedford Forrest at Ft Pillow, any number of soldiers, north and south who killed those who should have been taken prisoner.

There was also much valor. I didn't see the cause of breaking the Union as justifying the starting of war. I suppose that you don't see keeping the Union as sufficient cause for the North to say "Depart Erring Sisters".

It was my thought that the hotheads in the South tried by theft from federarl arsenals, attacks on federal forts, and firing at Ft. Sumpter, to start a fight, with the expectation that other states would join them. They succeeded, and Virginia (among others) joined their effort. On the other hand, when they tried to start that fight, they also created the conditions for the US government to fight back.


742 posted on 07/19/2006 8:00:01 AM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: stand watie

I think your timing is off.

My recollection is that the abolitionist movement became a major force long after the trans atlantic slave trade became illegal.

It may be that the sons and grandsons of the shippers, bankers, and traders became abolitionists. In that sense, it was probably a mark of sincerity that they spend the money gained though the slave trade on the abolition of slavery.

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743 posted on 07/19/2006 8:04:22 AM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: M. Espinola
In terms of your nearly extinct breed of rabid neo-confederate rabble rouser's, just recall those you call "Yankees" by the millions will always out number the tiny crackpot cult of neo-confeds - in your own backyard too, which is naturally a huge improvement.

More good evidence. Yesterday, Georgia Republican governor Perdue easily beat a challenge from a guy whose loudest campaign point was a lament for the infamous 1950s segregationists' confederate-themed state flag. Hooray for Georgia. The current flag incorporates the less-known Confederate flag. The one that's less known by KKKers, race car fans plus the Dukes of Hazard and other inhabitants of Hazard county.

Bye bye flag. Georgia has spoken.

744 posted on 07/19/2006 8:06:25 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: stand watie

The flip side of your argument is that only after the trade in slaves was restricted to domestics, did the southern slave owners decide that it was a practice worth fighting for.

Actually, the Northwest Ordinance, restricting slavery in the new states was passed during the time of the Articles of Confederation. To me that suggests that all agreed that slavery was a practice that should be limited, reduced, and cut back. It would have been rather nice if the practice could have been limited (as the Republicans wanted, by restricting slaves in the Territories) until the pro slavery forces were weak enough that it could be abolished. The pro slavery forces didn't want that approach. And the war came.


745 posted on 07/19/2006 8:10:12 AM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
i HAVE posted the source document SEVERAL TIMES as you well KNOW. you just don't want to ADMIT the TRUTH, as it makes "your side" look like the HATERS/LIARS/nitwits, that they demonstrably ARE/

free dixie,sw

746 posted on 07/19/2006 9:13:40 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: M. Espinola
once more, you demonstrate for everyone what the definition of IGNORANT, nitwit, BIGOT & hater is = "m.eSPINola".

don't you get tired of being RIDICULED???

free dixie,sw

747 posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:13 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: M. Espinola; All
another SILLY post with DUMB cartoon!

to ALL: this is why "mr. spin" is the BUTT of inside jokes & is a "target of opportunity" for RIDICULE!

free dixie,sw

748 posted on 07/19/2006 9:16:57 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: donmeaker
even IF all of that is TRUE, (and it is NOT) nonetheless lincoln, the TYRANT, chose WAR rather than PEACE & a MILLION people needLESSLY died for his FOLLY & EGOMANIA.

free dixie,sw

749 posted on 07/19/2006 9:19:12 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: donmeaker
NOPE. SORRY, but once more you are WRONG as usual.

in LATE 1864, several of "the leading abolitionists" had stock in companies, which were still in the "flesh trade". they had MOSTLY moved their marketplace to BRAZIL.

same people, same companies, same FILTHY slave trade, SAME HYPOCRYTES too. (new englanders have ALWAYS been INTOLERENT & HYPOCRYTES! they still are, with their mostly LILLY-WHITE SCHOOLS, LOUD-mouthed arrogance & condescension!)

free dixie,sw

750 posted on 07/19/2006 9:24:36 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: donmeaker
your argument SOUNDS logical, but it IS a PRIME example of the "this/that" fallacy of logic.

despite the FACT that roosters crow before dawn, the sunrise is NOT caused by chickens crowing. one event simply follows the other.

the WBTS was NOT caused by slavery,or the slavers fervent desire to protect the "peculiar institution"!

150 years of hypocritical, KNOWING,arrogant, SELF-righteous, LIES from the lunatic fringe of "DAMNyankeedom" does NOT make their case any less PHONY, despite how LOUD they scream their KNOWING nonsense.

free dixie,sw

751 posted on 07/19/2006 9:32:59 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

No primary sources from the civil war are online.

Just a reality note.


752 posted on 07/19/2006 10:02:44 AM PDT by Donald Meaker (Boy, that Rondell fellow plays all over the ice, eh?)
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To: Donald Meaker
in other words, you confine your "research" to what's on the "worldwidewierd"????

no wonder you seem "lost in the woods". obviously, what you have been reading is 3d,4th,5th hand BILGE from the REVISIONIST schools. (should you decide to go read the sources they claim to have used, you will FREQUENTLY find that they either:

a. never read the source document at all AND/OR

b. they INTENTIONALLY LIED about what it said.

to LEARN anything of VALUE, you must turn OFF your computer & go dig into microfilm/microfische,read dusty tomes in the basement & read the PRIMARY SOURCE material.

to paraphrase Professor Arnold Toynbee: there is NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING, that you can learn from a study of REVISIONIST historiography other than that there is NOTHING of value, that you can learn from studying REVISIONIST historiography!

free dixie,sw

753 posted on 07/19/2006 2:23:54 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
Every time to the truth is published relating to your "good friend" KKK/Nazi ambulance chaser Kirk Lyons you go ballistic (but then again anything relating to Dixie's slavery empire in defeat makes you go flying off the deep end).

When is Kirk's next Klan meeting?

754 posted on 07/19/2006 2:24:58 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
every time YOU post your LYING, hate-FILLED, ignorant BILGE, more smart FReepers LOL at you. don't you get tired of being RIDICULED as a FOOL, a BIGOT & a DUNCE????

i'm, otoh, REALLY glad you're here and constantly ranting, as you make converts to the dixie LIBERTY cause each time you post your usual DUMB-bunny hatefulness.

your "shut up" comment the other day to me, made TWO converts to our side. PLEASE tell me to "shut up", more OFTEN, "mr.spin"!

free dixie,sw

755 posted on 07/19/2006 2:32:46 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Excellent news concerning the Georgia State Flag. This major neo-confed defeat, one of countless defeats the backward element has suffered from 1865 onward, must have the raving rebels jumping into the nearest mosquito infested swamp (more then normal) :) The Klan won't be flying the new flag.

The Georgia flag has three red and white stripes and the state coat of arms on a blue field in the upper left corner. Thirteen stars surrounding the seal denotes Georgia's position as one of the original thirteen colonies. On the seal three pillars supporting an arch represent the three branches of government; legislative, judicial and executive. A man with sword drawn is defending the Constitution, whose principles are wisdom, justice and moderation. The date 1776 represents the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Flag adopted May 8th, 2003

756 posted on 07/19/2006 2:35:46 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: stand watie

The truth about Kirk does drive you crazy! :)


757 posted on 07/19/2006 2:38:08 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: stand watie
"dixie LIBERTY"

As in the new and improved GA state flag? You are correct Sir, the improvement is indeed "dixie LIBERTY" at her finest.

758 posted on 07/19/2006 2:40:35 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
the BEST news for us southrons is that YOU are here and RUNNING YOUR MOUTH!

the BAD NEWS is for the other members of the "DY coven", as you make them look like IGNORANT, arrogant HATERS, as you demonstrably are.

RANT ON, DUMB-bunny!

free diixe,sw

759 posted on 07/19/2006 2:46:07 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: M. Espinola
well, since TRUTH would be "a STRANGER" coming from you, we'll give your STUPID post all the respect it so richly deserves: ZILCH!

you are EVIDENTLY too DUMB to KNOW that lawyers represent people based on their "ability to PAY the BILL", rather than what they believe in/do NOT believe in.

lolrotf AT you, DUMB-bunny!

free dixie,sw

760 posted on 07/19/2006 2:49:58 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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