Yankee clauses dashed [Local landowner REALLY didn't like yankees...]

The Island Packet ^ | 07/06/2006 | JIM FABER

[rustbucket]

**Union County 531,457 (Elizabeth - 124,724)

... The number of people living in primarily rural or rural/ suburban counties but also including a moderate urban area ** is 2,771,459 (approx 32%)

I used to live in Union County. To call it rural would be an absolute stretch. Suburban, maybe, but not rural or rural/suburban. Leave one Union County city and you enter another. It is wall to wall small cities -- difficult to tell where one begins and the other ends except for the city limits signs.

[Non-Sequitur]

You guessed wrong.

Imagine. Stand watie wrong about something. Who'da thunk it?

[XRdsRev]

I generally agree. Union County is more suburban. The urban section being that around Elizabeth/Linden/ Hillside etc.

The portions of Union around Mountainside, New Providence, Berkely Heights etc. are definately upscale suburban. I classed it as I did because it really didn't fit in with the heavily urban criteria for the county as a whole.

[M. Espinola]

"once more, there are NO "neo-confederates"

The prime disciple of today's neo-rebel disinformation rants on again.

Your verbal rubbish this time is identical to previous gems such as 'There was no Civil War', or '200,000 blacks fought for Dixie's freedom'... and on and on. More insane neo-confederate revisionist propaganda.

Speaking of 'bigots', did you not state Klan/neo-Nazi top lawyer Kirk Lyons was a good friend of yours?

"The League of the South, founded in 1994 and counting some 9,000 members by 2001, is at the center of the racist neo-Confederate movement. Calling once again for Southern secession, the League's leaders say minorities are destroying the "Anglo-Celtic" (white) culture of the South. They oppose most non-white immigration and all interracial marriages. Founder Michael Hill, a former college professor, has called blacks "a deadly and compliant underclass" and has embraced well-known white supremacists such as North Carolina attorney Kirk Lyons."

You were saying .....?

Now the facts:

And this ...

How – and why – Pelican Publishing became both a local success story and a leading source of Neo-Confederate literature.

"Pelican Publishing is Milburn Calhoun, and Milburn Calhoun is Pelican Publishing.

  This blending of the man and the company explains why Pelican publishes no serious literary fiction. The fiction section, which takes up less than two pages in Pelican’s 65-page backlist catalogue, offers only the most obscure fare. "I have always been looking for good novels, but most people do not write very good novels," says Calhoun. "The problem with fiction is that the writers think no one will read it, unless it’s full of sex. And I don’t see why they have to do that." Calhoun cites his Christian faith to explain his objection to "filthy words" on the printed page.

  But more controversial than Calhoun’s disdain for the modern novelist’s predilection for sex is his interest in publishing books that seek to correct prevailing views of the Civil War and Reconstruction. Two Pelican titles in this category are The South was Right! by James Ronald Kennedy and Walter Donald Kennedy, and Southern by the Grace of God by Michael Andrew Grissom. New this past year are The Southern Nation: The New Rise of the Old South by R. Gordon Thornton and The Confederate Cookbook, Family Favorites from the Sons of Confederate Veterans edited by Lynda Moreau.

  Each of these books displays a Confederate flag on its cover. The first three share in common a particular interpretation of history: the Confederacy was the true moral victor in the Civil War, the South was justifiably defending itself from invasion by a foreign power, and Southerners were unfairly punished in the aftermath of the war by a vengeful North. The books also stand on the assertion that the Civil War was not fought over slavery, but rather was a conflict between the South’s demand for state rights and the North’s emphasis on a stronger central government. The Southern Nation also advocates that the South should separate from the North all over again and form its own country – an opinion shared by the publisher.

  "Oh, we would be much better off that way," concurs Calhoun.

These books have brought Pelican Publishing the distinction of being named a "Neo-Confederate" publisher on www.templeofdemocracy.com, a Web site devoted to following those who seek to resurrect the Confederacy’s damaged reputation. When he picked up one of Pelican’s Maverick travel guides, "Temple of Democracy" creator Edward Sebesta says he was as baffled as many people tend to be when they look over Pelican’s eclectic assortment of titles. "There is no way that I’d know that this was the same publisher who put out Southern by the Grace of God"."

Watch - whenever the truth is printed relating to the real neo-confederate agenda the despicable disciples of neo-confederate disinformation crew have the information pulled, or the thread closed - watch.

Any bets? :)

[M. Espinola]

"Imagine. Stand watie wrong about something. Who'da thunk it?"

It can't be true :)

[stand watie]

!!!!!!!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

THANKS for the data.

i'd guess that those in "suburban" areas are what i think of (as a "small town dweller"-the town i actually reside in has about 600 people)as city, too.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

yet another false & DUMB post from FR's main DUMB-bunny = "m.eSPINola".

don't you get tired of being RIDICULED???

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

"of any great importance" ====> i'd guess that being of "great importance" depends on whether YOU were the one "who caught a round" from a scoped Whitworth, "of negligible effect", or not.

and YES you are correct, the Whitworth (being a precision instrument) as SLOW to load & had to be kept clean.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

actually, the judges were appointed to decide cases, NOT "make the laws" up as they go along to suit the socialists,ELITES, "baby-killers",LEFTISTS & REVISIONISTS out of DAMNyankeeland.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

i believe you ARE smart enough to KNOW that the "author", of the so-called "expose" of me,made up MOSTLY "out of whole cloth" and/or "taken out of context" his so-called "data".

in other words HE LIED! (for those "oh, so sensitive ones among us, he "supplied false data"-- lol!)

that's why he's "not around" any more & won't be.

i was at Tulane for 4 fall/spring terms & 2 summers. (isn't that 3 academic years, by your calculation???)

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

and "the People of the United States" cast their vote for the Constitution, WHEN????

face it, N-S, you've LOST this one.

NONE of the sovereign States would have FREELY entered a union, that they couldn't just as FREELY leave.

free dixie,sw

[M. Espinola]

Facts have always overwhelmed you. Still spouting "there are no neo-confederates"? lol

[M. Espinola]

Are you aware of secessionist syndrome and the only known cure?

[rustbucket]

I used to live in one of those upscale areas you mentioned. The Watchungs are a pretty area.

For what it's worth, Union County is counted as being in the NYC Metropolitan Area by whoever looks after such things, as are Middlesex, Monmouth, Ocean, Somerset, Morris, Sussex, and Hunterdon Counties from your list. Including Hunterdon in the NYC Metropolitan Area might be a stretch -- it has some rural areas as I remember.

[stand watie]

as i've said NUMEROUS times, there are NO "neo-confederates" unless you are a big fan of morris dees, the "SHYSTER-in-Chief of the splc".

he "made up" that "term of abuse" to be INSULTING to all southerners, who don't support his LEFTIST/SOCIALIST agenda. (are YOU a socialist/leftist or simply a DUNCE???)

using that "term of abuse" marks the USER as a FOOL & a HATER/BIGOT. (otoh, that seems to fit you to a tee.)

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

i'm aware that YOU are RIDICULED constantly by other FReepers & that you are the "butt" of many inside jokes by smarter FReepers, of all sorts.

don't you CARE that you are seen to be a FOOL & a NITWIT???

free dixie,sw

[XRdsRev]

The census categorizes only urban and rural. Their criteria is solely population density (urban = more than 1000 persons per square mile, rural is pretty much everything else).

Unfortunately the census definition doesn't really fit well with the standard traditional definition of urban which is more of what most people think of when they hear the term and which mentions nothing about population.

The census definition allows a general area (for example a township or county) to be categorized as urban even if it mostly farm fields or woodlands. As long as there is an average population density of over 1000 people per square mile. Conversely a large industrial area with little real population can be designated as rural.

The census also makes no consideration for suburban, areas that have higher then 1000 person per square mile populations but that are not really anything akin to a city. For example, a square mile contains 640 acres of land. If you divided that into 2.5 acre parcels with a family of four living on each parcel, you would have a population density of greater than 1000 people per square mile. Now I don't think you would find too many people that think that one home per 2.5 square acres equals an "urban" landscape but the census thinks it is.

[cowboyway]

I believe you are wrong in that. Source please.

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

[stand watie]

in other words, the "downtown business district" of MOST major cities is "RURAL", as few people actually LIVE there???

as my grandfather used to say, "figures don't lie, but liars surely figure!"

free dixie,sw