Posted on 07/06/2006 7:01:52 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
Keep whistling by the graveyard...
Only the ones that are stoned.
Who says elections aren't black and white? As I remember that map, there was a large horizontal swath of blue across the lower South. That swath by and large corresponds to areas where cotton was intensely cultivated in the past and where many descendants of slaves still live.
Much of the map can be interpreted as corresponding how various racial groups vote. That is more valid perhaps than the city sophisticates versus the country rubes interpretation pushed by the MSM.
I'm not whistling by the graveyard, I am guffawing at your simplicity.
Exactly......My point was that there are pockets of old time residents in the south that firmly support democrats. Curly Bill's insinuation was that the only reason there are any democrats elected in the south is because of the Yankee transplants.
I found his explanation simplistic and innaccurate.
If you look at local voting patterns during the last presidential race in a northern state like my own New Jersey, you are likely to see the state as mostly red (Republican) with blue (democrat) support confined primarily to the urban areas. There is no consistency and it clearly reveals that there is no "liberal" mindset that infects everybody from north of the Mason Dixon Line.
Someone somewhere has a list of the achievements stand has claimed over time. It's quite impressive, and no doubt completely fabricated as well.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, given the level of contempt that the Davis regime had for their own constitution. But you would be screaming bloody murder if Lincoln had done it.
Really!! Okay... let's check the facts. How many electoral votes did the yankee states give the Bush/Cheney ticket?
Leowindhorse hands Stand Watie a .69 caliber smoothbore musket
powdered ,buck & balled and primed .......
All those Kerry/Edwards stickers were probably Rebs who figured they finally made it to Cemetary Ridge when their great granddaddies didn't.
Stand watie takes said smoothbore, curtly nods his thanks to LeoWindhorse, takes careful aim, and shoots himself in the foot yet again.
So is dredging up stuff from 140 years after the fact trying to make some lame point with it. Long and short of it is that my stateof Kansas was solidly Republican when the south was still slobbering over the Democrat du jour. At it'll be Republican long after the South goes crawling back to the Democrats.
Boy you got that right... been a man of few words is not cold.. it thrifty... and being to the point is respect... if you respect some one you don't play the game of "blowing of smoke of each other Ass" as if your both stupid and don't know what's really going on
Stand Watie's Curriculum Vitae as follows as gleaned from his own FR postings:
Employment
1) Current HVAC (Heating and Air Conditioning) Company Employee in as yet undisclosed capacity.
2) Current "Guest Lecturer" at undisclosed College (writes Faculty notes, has typewriter's capital letters modified and does research
although not Tenured Faculty Member.....as of this writing)
3) Current "Policy Wonk" at undiclosed Non-Profit Organization
4) Current Partner in a Security Company seeking Middle East Security Services Contracts
5) Former Professor of Something at an undisclosed Texas Church related College
6) Former English 101 Teacher somewhere (College level English Comp)
7) Former Instructor/Professor at US ARMY Military Police School
8) Former Security Supervisor for a large City/County Hospital (unclear as to why Mr. Watie equates two separate entities)
9) Former Magazine business executive who entertained clients
A VERY busy man obviously
Education
1) English Lit Undergrad on one post
2) Political Science Degree (either MS or BS/BA - not sure)
3) Public Policy Degree (either MSPP or BS/BA - not sure)
4) Public Administration Degree (either MSPA or BS/BA - not sure)
5) Additionally states "i wrote one of my 3 mini-thesis (sic) for my ms on san jacinto." (not stated where this MS was aquired and
unclear as to where one prepares more than one Thesis for a Masters) One might assume logically that "ms" means Master of Science.
Unclear as to whether this "mini thesis" was in support of a MS in Poli Sci possibly claimed or if an additional MS degree in something else as one does not get an MS San Jacinto. ( Apologies, but certain parts of Watie's story are difficult to decipher)
Army ROTC / Joined Army in 1969-74. then to Grad School 1974-1979 but also did Grad school at Tulane in 1976-1978
apparently attending Auburn Grad School concurrent to attendance at Tulane. Somehow during this same period of 1976 -1977 he
was assigned as an advisor with a TXARNG unit with a "Squadron" of M-60 tanks. Maybe part of a Master's Thesis - not sure.
Not sure why Army service was listed as 1969-1974 but could refer to actual AD service period (ref. note 2 below)
Military Service:
1) 20.5 or 25 (depending on the post) years of AUS service as MP/Provost Marshal/specializing in spec ops/counter-guerrilla training, RAP/RAS/division MP ops, VN & Gulf War Vet MOCS 1542 & 31D35. At one time assigned to US Army Crim Investig Command
2) These 20.5 or 25 years seem to emcompass Reserve Duty and AD
3) Carried a sawed off 12 gauge shotgun on duty overseas allegedly as an MP and in direct violation of Military Regulations.
4) Dual Military Occupational Specialties as 31D35 (military police/miltary intelligence) and 1542 (Aviation Adjutant General's corp)
5) Former US Army Criminal Investigations Division assignment. USACIDC
6) Former "LEO" who refers to another LEO as "the idiot in blue, with badge & gun" recalling an alleged incident at the Pentagon
7) Has been anticipating a CONTUS callup to Iraq for AD since at least as far back as December 2003. Seemingly from 2 weeks to 120 days from happening.
This callup would be for a 58-60 year old vet who was retired due to disability.
As of September 2004 still no callup but his business partner and he are awaiting a "security services contract" anytime now that will result in his trip to Iraq.
Said contract apparently has not yet materialized but he is currently (Fall 2005) stating he expects to get his CONTUS orders soon. He has a Master Jailer's Certificate which he hopes to put to good use.
8) 1970-1971 was both in Zwiebrucken, Germany while also being in Texas in 1971 with the TXARNG undergoing testing for his Expert Infantry Badge.
9) 1991-1992 was stationed presumably AD in Venezuela which fits the 25 year service claim but during the very same time period was called up from retired reserve (medical disability) for duty from the retired reserve, "when the 1st bugle blew" to go fight in the Gulf War (official battle engagement date Jan 17, 1991) thus again being half a world away at the same time.
Additional Claims:
1) He is writing a book which will be out in spring or summer of 2005 not sure of topic but perhaps about General Sherman. unsure as to new release date as of Fall 2005.
2) Has an uncle with 2 different names ie: "Wayne Thomas Bankhead" and renamed "William Thomas Bankhead" both listed as PO3s on the USS Champion during WW2.
3) Former member of NAACP until Indians were "kicked out" for being too conservative. This from an organization that never has denied membership to any color or creed,
4) Former member of SCLC were he "knew" both Dr. M.L. King and Jesse Jackson so well he knows what Dr. King personally thought of Jackson. further claims he knew Coretta and MLK's father.
5) His Father knew, liked and was a member of Col. P. Tibbets B-29 flight crew days before the Enola Gay's best "ride".
6) A friend of his named James ____ designed the A-10 Warthog Close Air Support Sled ..... apparently by himself as no other credit is noted.
7) His Army quartersmate was Capt. Damon Runyon relative of the famous author/playwright of the same name.
8) He once had ALL of the active and retired Swiss Military Generals at his home at the same time. All of them. 9) He was a Boy Scout and of course reached Eagle Scout level.
10) His mother recieved a Commendation letter of appreciation from an unamed commanding general "for her assistence (sic) of a vast but incalculable amount to the deployment & troop support effort during Operation Desert Storm".
11) He met Eddie Rickenbacker's (WWI ace) wingman when Watie was 17 years old.
12) At 16 years old (1964) he was the Campaign Manager for a "Bill Miller" who was running for 1st Congressional District of TX (from a Zell Miller thread so not sure of the link there as Zell Miller himself ran for Congress that same year in Georgia)
13) Mantains a Confederate sniper snorked a Union Lt from 1600 yards with mid 1800's hardware and that 1600 yards is "more than a mile" thus pointing out that 1600 > 1760.......but math appears not to be one of his undergraduate or graduate courses of study.
14) Once when investigating a homicide he parked his vehicle seemingly directly over or on top of "a LIVE 250 pound general purpose bomb!" and even more amazing is that when he returned to his vehicle to use his radio, a bystander said "UH, captain, before you move your jeep, you oughta look under the right front tire." This bystander amazingly either was close enough to observe this bomb and know what it was and obtuse enough to allow another unsuspecting person to walk right up to that dangerous situation.
Some recent claims currently under review for CV inclusion
"...with any luck at all, my nonfiction book, on guerrilla warfare in the west, will be published next spring by TSU Press. (i have no idea when my novel, an "alternative history/bodice-ripper", will be finished, as i'm too busy with the new company to have time to work on it, even one night a week.) "
"...fwiw, i couldn't care LESS what you think of me an/or my writing style (it was good enough to get me postgraduate degrees from both Auburn & Tulane)"
Nah... they were Union reenactors.
LOL!! Again, you cannot equate party politics of the 1860's to that of today. It's a tired argument that doesn't work... yet you folks use it because you have little else.
Again, you are missing the point. Of course President Bush got more electoral votes in the South. However, that does not translate into your seeming insistance that every Yankee is a liberal.
My home state of New Jersey cast more votes for President Bush (1,670,003) than Alabama (1,176,394), Mississippi (684,981), South Carolina (973,974), Tennessee (1, 384,375), Kentucky (1,069,439), Arkansas (572,898) or Louisiana (1,102,169).
2,832,704 people in Texas voted for Kerry, whereas only 1,911,430 New Jersey voters made that same mistake.
Not everything is as simple as to how Electoral votes were cast. State electorates are generally not homogenous and it is very dangerous to try to paint these electorates with broad generalizations. It is very misleading.
thou hast neva hefted a Smoothbore , I take it .
It be so long that it is near on impossible to get the
muzzle onto ones own foot . It be strictly for killin the enemy at a distance with it's deadly spread shot .
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