Posted on 06/09/2006 8:56:48 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
So you Think Soccer Sucks?
Fine. I am honestly surprised that you could find the energy to type it, or its equivalent. I am not surprised that you are probably the same person complaining that soccer is being “rammed down your throat,” or other such nonsense.
Do you realize how silly you sound? In what sort of universe can a professional sport, any professional sport, be forced upon anyone? Just turn off the sports media. That enough should be understandable to every member of this website, even the re-treads, trolls, disruptors, and shills.
But we need to get a few things straight. Above all else, your team is playing in the largest tournament on the face of our planet. That’s right, your team. Your other teams, be they named Penske, Padres, or Packers, do not perform on such a stage. A Packer fan may tell a Bear fan that his team sucks. The Bear fan will reply in kind. Such is the nature of rivalry. But try and explain to me that soccer is a wussy sport when I see the following:
Mexican fan: Your team sucks.Oh yeah, that’s real testosterone on display. Chicks dig a competitor.
U.S.A. fan: Soccer is ghey.
If you cannot bring yourself to cheer for or even defend your own country, then how about shutting the heck up. If you cannot bring yourself to shut the heck up, then walk into a stadium full of English, German, or Dutch fans, stand up, and shout the same out loud. But please try those fans first. Other countries’ fans may mistakenly deliver you to a painless death. Drink a beer or two if it makes you brave. Remember that there will always be someone braver than you.
I don’t want to hear about how soccer is a “socialist” sport. It’s insulting. To your intelligence. I don’t care to talk about restrictor-plates, revenue-sharing, anti-trust exemptions, or the Fair Catch Rule, whose very name suggests wine spritzers and flower arrangements. Please understand this is not about the superiority of one sport over another. This is about rising to the pinnacle of a sport that gives every country in the world the opportunity to qualify. It’s a sport. It has a ball. It's about being the best. What more do you need?
Americans love to fight - traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. When you were kids, you all admired the champion marble player; the fastest runner; the big league ball players; the toughest boxers. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win - all the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.1I don’t want to hear that the rules are lame. You don’t know the rules. You all but admitted you don’t watch, so how can you? Injury time, the calculation of which was always the source of debate, is now announced at the sideline as the half is ending. It’s been that way for years. Please try and keep up.
Players take dives. Live with it. It happens in every contact sport. Sometimes a player takes a dive in order to give himself or his teammates a rest. You would also if you just spent the last forty minutes and incalculable miles alternating between a run and a sprint.
Your team needs you. Your country needs you. The next couple weeks will not be easy and will only become harder, and the stakes higher, as time goes on. Sure, I think Landon Donavan is a priss, DaMarcus Beasley is over-rated, and Claudio Reyna is too old. It matters not. I do not expect you to start drinking at 5AM. I do not expect you to march down Main Street with the Stars & Stripes. I do not expect four Chicago cops in riot-gear come to the apartment (my personal best). But I expect you to get behind your team or get out of my way.
Thanks for letting me “share.” Thanks for letting me “emote.” Chuckle if you wish. Just remember that somewhere (not necessarily in Germany) someone in American gear is drinking and dancing with a hot Brazilian, or Swedish, or Australian chick and you are not.
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1George S. Patton, Speech to the Third Army, 1944.
What the hell are you talking about?
When did I say word one about your obsession with manhood?
When did you refer me to, or ask my opinion of, this "essay"? The post number, please.
When did I respond "I haven't seen it" to this essay? The post number, please.
Why would I arrive on this thread with any more of an "open mind" than you have?
I have addressed specific questions, while you have blatantly lied. Your posts are full of LOLs instead of addressing specific points. Then you simply INVENT things you want me to have said ("OK, so you didn't see it so it doesn't exist") like a schoolgirl.
Your whole thread is about these supposed comments about people whining about being "forced" to do something, so you in turn are being "forced" to read their comments?
You are obsessed with this manhood question--pretty typical for a teenager, so I am guessing from your inability to debate in a logical, honest manner without resorting to childish lies and insults--so I am guessing you are a young boy on a soccer team (or an arrested development case who WAS a boy on a soccer team) and you have a grudge because someone made jokes about your manhood.
Being a soccer player doesn't make you a wuss; being a liar and someone who can't have an honest debate does.
I can't add anything to that, it's just funny.
Yeah, that's kinda like a pic of Helen Thomas. Just a visual hand grenade thrown into the thread.
Show of hands here, how many guys actually find that attractive?
Based on this kid who put up the thread and his childish behavior, I'm thinking that's a good illustration of the inner soccerboy.
Not me, it looks like a transvestite. Must be a pro soccer player on the town.
As far as this lying BS, I'd suggest coming back to this thread in a day or two and re-reading our exchange. One of the reasons it went to crap so quickly is because you failed to understand that I was speaking of a general notion, and you were fixated on what you had or had not said. Please bear in mind that this is the Smoky Backroom, not a Debating Society.
Did I hurt your feelings, n00b? One symptom is whining about it to another FReeper.
BS. Anyone who looks at the posts will see you TRIED to address my specific points. Now that you've completely failed--and completey lied--you're running away. It's now suddenly not a debating society when someone calls you on a blatant lie.
Oh, and the "I only started this thread to take the heat off" line is wearing thin, since you have attempted to engage so many posters here in debate.
Anyone who suspects soccer fans are a bunch of wusses only need look at your pathetic responses.
God knows you haven't whined to any FReepers on this thread...which you created to whine.
Now go off and watch some more men in shorts running around together.
Is that why you're so upset? You've been had.
I did:
Your team needs you. Your country needs you. The next couple weeks will not be easy and will only become harder, and the stakes higher, as time goes on. Sure, I think Landon Donavan is a priss, DaMarcus Beasley is over-rated, and Claudio Reyna is too old. It matters not. I do not expect you to start drinking at 5AM. I do not expect you to march down Main Street with the Stars & Stripes. I do not expect four Chicago cops in riot-gear come to the apartment (my personal best). But I expect you to get behind your team or get out of my way.
Tell me tha isn't a blatant attempt to use patriotism to foment interest in a sport that most people aren't interested in?
I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being serious. It must be hard to love a sport as much as you do only to be chided for it.
Just remember that somewhere (not necessarily in Germany) someone in American gear is drinking and dancing with a hot Brazilian, or Swedish, or Australian chick and you are not.
Did you think you could taunt people and not be called on it? Childish.
What a feep--if I felt like posting a negative comment there I would have. You think this is going to cover all the whining you did on this thread? "Oh, I MEANT to whine like a baby, and when someone tried to discuss it, I argued until I was caught BSing, and then I ran away--ha ha!"
You can look at four days of World Cup threads and admire my work (although it looks like the Mods have resorted to pulling comments from the trolls). Is that why you're so upset? You've been had.
You're preening about keeping your precious World Cup threads clean?
Thanks for promoting the "Soccer-fan-as-dweeb" sterotype.
When one cannot bring themselves to cheer for their country in an international competition, then it is a perfectly acceptable consideration. Again, no one is saying you are unpatriotic, we are merely discussing the limits of your patriotism. And please note that my request was more along the lines of, if you cannot bring yourself to do it, then stay out of the way of others who can.
I refer you to my reply #233.
Oh, so now it's NOT the Smokey Backroom--now you want to "discuss"? I thought you were playing us all for suckers--instead you actually MEANT everything on this thread?
Dude--you don't even realize you just outed yourself as being full of it. Congratulations!
P.S. The lie has already been pointed out up thread. Good going, though--by attempting to reignite the debate you ran away from, you have revealed your BSing for all to see.
It's fun watching you squirm!
Obviously I think soccer sucks, that's why I stay off of the World Cup threads. Folks who troll them suck worse than soccer.
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