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There are more but here is a few examples just by their discrption you know it has vital knowledge

Num. 21:
14 Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the LORD, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,

Josh. 10:
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Ex. 24:
7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient

<< I suspect that you are not all what you claim to be and so why discuss ethics then? >>

I have been scrupulously honest in every word I have said. But no matter. I expected an answer like this. We "heathens" are just lying anyway, and we so far beneath you that you can't even deign to bless us with an agreement on some basic ethical rules of behavior in debate, because, after all, we are just liars and deceivers.

What would it matter if I WERE lying about ALL of this religous stuff? It matters not a bit with respect to the issues under discussion. If I accepted evolution because I hate God and Christians -- that does nothing to provide evidence to support evolution, nor does it do anything to diminish what evidence that IS there.

If I rejected evolution because of my strong religious beliefs -- THAT ALSO does nothing to provide evidence against evolution, or in favor of whatever it is I believe instead.

It is the evidence that matters. And if we can't even agree that presenting the evidence should be done honestly and transparently -- and that we should be quick to admit error when error is proven -- and quick to retract when we are shown to be wrong -- then what kind of people are we, anyway?

I would have thought that this kind of thinking would be quite attractive to a Christian believer -- even if you can't believe I am sincere about it. Why not at least agree that YOUR SIDE should adhere to such ethics? I mean -- if you believe we are incapable of such ethical behavior -- aren't YOU?

"I'm suspicious-minded so I don't have to treat you ethically?" My mind is boggling.

Heck, if you need some leading, gather 'round and watch me. I may not be Christian any more but I can argue without calling people names. For some on your side that would be a great improvement.