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New Tape Stirs Up 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
ABCnews.com ^ | 5-16-03 | Staff

Posted on 05/16/2006 4:59:04 PM PDT by veronica

The minute the Pentagon released images of the Sept. 11 attack on its building, the message boards at ABCNEWS.com lit up with conspiracy theories.

Some blame it on an inside job by members of the Bush administration to benefit their business interests. Some say it was planned by neoconservatives to advance their worldview. Others don't know what happened but doubt the official story put forward by the government.

The world of conspiracy theories surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks is vast, and more than four years after the worst terrorist incident on U.S. soil, countless scenarios are put forth on the Internet, in academic forums and on talk radio each day. Some are of the "MIHOP" variety, which claim people in power made it happen on purpose, while others are of the "LIHOP" kind — they let it happen on purpose.

With Tuesday's release of video footage of American Airlines Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon building, an attack that killed 184 people on Sept. 11, questions rage again.

"It doesn't clarify anything — I don't see a plane in that image," said Michael Berger, spokesman for 911Truth.org. "In fact, I thought that was underwhelming."

Berger said 911Truth.org "would like to see various conspiracy theories laid to rest as well" and does not believe the government has addressed "inherent contradictions" in evidence and testimony surrounding the events of that day.

"We would like to know what happened," he said. "Four-and-a-half years later, we still don't have definitive proof that a plane hit that building."

Berger said the group "has never said one way or another what happened at the Pentagon," but it did support the Freedom of Information Act requests that led to the Pentagon releasing the footage.

But 911Truth.org does believe Sept. 11 has been used as the "justification for broader policies," both foreign and domestic, he said.

Barrie Zwicker, a Canadian investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker and author of the upcoming book "Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-Up of 9/11," said the video does not answer the question of how any aerial vehicle — "a 757 or a missile or a fighter equipped with a missile or a fighter alone or a blimp or a Cessna" — could make it to the "central headquarters of the greatest military power that ever existed."

"Even if it was a model airplane, for God's sake," Zwicker said.

He also questioned the timing of the video's release.

"For them to be releasing this video so late, why so late and why now?" he said.


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KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy; conspiracytheory; crackpots; flight77; idiots
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To: Texas_Jarhead
ABC News should be freakin ashamed of themselves for even citing those America hating crackpots.




NO! NO!! NO!!!
The more they reveal themselves, the better it is for the American people to discover how stupid they really are, thanks God for their "intelligence"!!!
81 posted on 05/16/2006 8:11:23 PM PDT by danamco
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To: panaxanax

Compare "nose hump" shape to Boeing 757


82 posted on 05/16/2006 8:12:13 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: DesScorp
Pure whackjobs, all of them.



Including "pastor" fred phelps!??!
83 posted on 05/16/2006 8:14:51 PM PDT by danamco
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To: eureka!
Here's a sample thread from the DUmbsh*ts over there. Even some of their 1000+ post members can't believe how their hatred blinds them to what happened:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1205964&mesg_id=1205964

OMG -- there was a car driving and a person walking IN THE PARKING LOT! Obvious proof of a BFEE CONSPIRACY!!

How do these people manage to dress themselves in the morning?

84 posted on 05/16/2006 8:15:43 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: veronica

I can't see anything I can ID as a plane in those shots.

Nonetheless, the plane, piloted by a Muslim terrorist, hit the Pentagon. End of story. Period.


85 posted on 05/16/2006 8:16:13 PM PDT by Gone GF
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To: panaxanax
Since the wacko's love CNN they should listen to their Pentagon reporter Jamie McIntyre, he said today that he saw plane parts all over the place.
86 posted on 05/16/2006 8:16:57 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: veronica
Berger said 911Truth.org "would like to see various conspiracy theories laid to rest as well" and does not believe the government has addressed "inherent contradictions" in evidence and testimony surrounding the events of that day.

"We would like to know what happened," he said. "Four-and-a-half years later, we still don't have definitive proof that a plane hit that building."




The plane is still flying around in the Bermuda Triangle!??!
87 posted on 05/16/2006 8:20:20 PM PDT by danamco
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To: veronica
It's a wonder humanity ever made its way off of the veldt.

Logging off now, it's to depressing.

88 posted on 05/16/2006 8:23:48 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Nachoman
What? I get to be first! The Joooz did it!



Yeah, they had plenty of time to do it, because they did NOT go to work at the two towers in N.Y.on 9/11!!!
89 posted on 05/16/2006 8:26:30 PM PDT by danamco
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To: WVNan
Has anybody ever asked the dingbats just where the heck they think all those people on those planes that did not hit the towers and the pentagon disappeared to? I'm sure their families would like to know where Bush/Cheney are hiding them.

Penn and Teller did a B*llsh*t segment on these crackpots. (WARNING -- Video with NSFW language) One of these kooks declares that the planes were landed and "remotely piloted", and that the passengers are now "working for the government" as part of the cover-up.

90 posted on 05/16/2006 8:28:12 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe they should chew on the tinfoil.


91 posted on 05/16/2006 8:45:16 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: narby
drip, drip, drip. George W. Bush is no good. George W. Bush is no good. George W. Bush is no good. Change the headlines, seem to change the subject. Abu Ghraib. European disdain. Tom Delay. Katrina. Deficits. Valerie Plame. Gas prices. Karl Rove. Death in Iraq. Angry mothers. NSA wiretaps. Drip.............

A perfect rendition of the MSM's agenda AND based on the overwhelming abandonment of Bush's conservative base [as depicted here on FR], startling PROOF of their continued POWER to PERSUADE.

92 posted on 05/16/2006 8:55:48 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: Salamander


Thank you for that! I see it! I have never doubted the facts, and I hate the nutzos who are causing such a ruckus about it -- but I was still disappointed not to see it.

I saw something, but couldn't quite put it all together. It was these pictures you gave, along with an understanding of the distance away, the height of the building, and the height of the plane, that makes it obvious.

Look again, guys. That's the plane.


93 posted on 05/16/2006 10:57:50 PM PDT by Almagest (Ptolemy was a creationist. This does prove creationism -- right?)
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To: Almagest

I'm happy to help....:)

The worst problem was that the camera was only taking snaphots at 1 second intervals.
At approximately 500 mph, a *lot* goes on during that next 1 second interval.
Had it been a live feed camera, we could have seen it frame-by-frame with much better clarity.

To give an idea of how big the Pentagon is, our truck/trailer was parked on the *other* side of it and our bike was on the damaged side.

I was thirsty and all my water was back in the truck.
You didn't dare drive back because you would lose your place in line while you were gone and walking that far was *not* an option.....:)


94 posted on 05/17/2006 2:27:58 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: GnL
"It's kind of humorous reading a bunch of idiots theorize on a plane crash when it's likely that none of them even completed college."

Oh, but they went. For 10 years or more. Hence, their looney bent. ;^)

95 posted on 05/17/2006 6:49:08 AM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: steve-b

Re#84 LOL. They are a sorry lot. Their anger is amazing...


96 posted on 05/17/2006 6:50:48 AM PDT by eureka! (Heaven forbid the Rats get control of Congress and/or the Presidency any time soon....)
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To: veronica

Yesterday the Seattle P. I. published a guest column written by a philosophy professor at Seattle University (my alma mater) claiming that the Twin Towers were taken down by explosives planted by our own government. I was embarrassed for my old school, but that's the direction it has been taking in recent years. It is now a safe haven for holocaust deniers (9/11 conspiracy theorists are almost always rabid anti-Semites who see 9/11 as an American/ Zionist plot).


97 posted on 05/17/2006 7:32:08 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: higgmeister

I hear ya'...


98 posted on 05/17/2006 7:36:48 AM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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To: satchmodog9

LOL. I'd pay to see that!


99 posted on 05/17/2006 7:37:34 AM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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To: Steve_Seattle
Yesterday the Seattle P. I. published a guest column written by a philosophy professor at Seattle University (my alma mater) claiming that the Twin Towers were taken down by explosives planted by our own government.

Check out this DUmmie FUnnies thread (and, if you have a strong stomach, follow the link to the original DUmmie thread).

100 posted on 05/17/2006 7:52:30 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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