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To: Havoc
After all, the Devil can quote what is written also (Matthew 4:1-11) to suit his own needs...

Correction. The devil misquoted the scriptures to get what he wanted by misrepresentation. Christ corrected him. The misrepresentation that Satan was making in 4:6 is that it is ok to tempt God. Christ corrected him. So Satan can twist scripture; but, he isn't using scripture itself (truth) for his own ends. He perverts it and uses the perversion to his own end so that he uses evil to his end where Christ uses Good to his.

Well, youre' simply wrong. The Devil did not misquoute scripture:

Matthew 4:
6...If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written,He shall give his angels charge concerning thee:
and in their hands they shall bear thee up,
lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

This a direct reference to Psalms 91:11-12, which reads:

For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
They shall bear thee up in their hands,  lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

Neither did the Devil misrepresent the meaning of the verse. What Christ did do, is put it into perspective by saying:'...It is also written, thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.' This is something that Christ does very often, and we see it take form at the very beginning of his ministry in Matthew chapters 5-7.

Here are some examples:

5:21  ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; [Ex. 20.13 · Deut. 5.17] and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
5:22  but I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
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5:27  Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: [Ex. 20.14 · Deut. 5.18] 28  but I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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This is a theme that occurs throughout the New Testament, where Jesus completes the parameters of concepts found throughout the Old Testament. One such concept is the command by God to prosper, but in Matthew 19:24, Jesus says: "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God”

On the one hand, and the lower extreme, God doesn't want us just idly sitting by, doing nothing, while waiting to enter Heaven. On the other hand, and the upper extreme, Christ warns us that too much prosperity will compromise our soul.

Part of the lesson here is that we should strive to understand the Bible as a whole, rather than simply plucking verses to suit our selfish needs. ...

1,044 posted on 05/15/2006 4:47:19 AM PDT by csense
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To: csense
Well, youre' simply wrong. The Devil did not misquoute scripture:

I am not wrong. Misquoting something is more than whether you get the words right or not. One name: Strom Thurmond. Ring any bells. A 'citation' in which the words were right as reported in the MSM while their meaning had nothing to do with reality.. Was the author properly quoted? No. Communication is more than a string of words - it is the intent of the words and their meaning in context that matters. So being verbally accurate is not the same as being true to the content. Your final remark is true; but, it is true because of what I just noted. In the larger scheme of things, Satan was verbally correct while being content inaccurate as to what is meant. The content becomes inaccurate by turning it into a temptation of God.

I've experienced similar in the past few days when someone cited me and misconstrued what I said. He cited me verbally; but, what he read into the commentary was in no way the intent of what was stated. So did he cite me accurately -no. Verbal precision verses content precision. You cannot divorce the two and do a citation justice.

1,046 posted on 05/15/2006 5:29:39 AM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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