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To: Junior
Working scientists do not have that kind of time--unless they're on PhD welfare...

BION, I know a few working scientists. None of them care much about the issue of evo, and none of their work depends on the "belief" in evo.

Science is accountable. Cosmology, archeology, paleontology, antrhopology...none are sciences. All can be interesting, but they create scenarios which at worst are merely replaced with newer and more interesting scenarios. Conjecture. Plausibility.

An archeologist is never wrong the way a simple lab technician can be wrong.

If it can't be wrong, it's not science. If it's not reproducible, accountable, verifiable--then it's speculation. Maybe reasonable speculation--but plausible and reasonable is the A standard for speculation. A+ in conjecture, in the spinning of yarns.

206 posted on 04/27/2006 1:11:17 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle; Coyoteman
Working scientists do not have that kind of time--unless they're on PhD welfare...

And how would you know? Do all "working scientists" work for the same company, or is it possible different organizations have different requirements on their time?

BION, I know a few working scientists. None of them care much about the issue of evo, and none of their work depends on the "belief" in evo.

Really? And are any of them in the biological sciences? You'll probably answer yes, but without anything to back up your claims we're not going to believe you. BTW, I thought you hated scientists.

Science is accountable. Cosmology, archeology, paleontology, antrhopology...none are sciences. All can be interesting, but they create scenarios which at worst are merely replaced with newer and more interesting scenarios. Conjecture. Plausibility.

They're not sciences? Coyoteman will be upset to hear that. BTW, who appointed you arbiter of what is and is not science? I forgot, it doesn't matter that you have absolutely no understanding of what you speak as long as it sounds good to you.

An archeologist is never wrong the way a simple lab technician can be wrong.

Coyoteman, I'll let you field this one as it's your field of expertise.

If it can't be wrong, it's not science. If it's not reproducible, accountable, verifiable--then it's speculation. Maybe reasonable speculation--but plausible and reasonable is the A standard for speculation. A+ in conjecture, in the spinning of yarns.

All those fields you mentioned do have research that is reproduceable -- maybe not in the way you think, but their findings can be checked and cross-checked. That you cannot conceive of this just shows your woeful lack of learning on the subject.

Do yourself a favor and at least study some of this stuff before spouting off.

211 posted on 04/27/2006 1:23:37 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Mamzelle
"Science is accountable. Cosmology, archeology, paleontology, antrhopology...none are sciences. All can be interesting, but they create scenarios which at worst are merely replaced with newer and more interesting scenarios. Conjecture. Plausibility."

Just because you don't understand science doesn't mean others are as ignorant. Cosmology, archeology, paleontology, anthropology... all accountable, deeply so in fact. Like all science is. Your emotional reaction to historical sciences is no better than any other emotional reaction not based on facts.

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http://www.asa3.org/asa/education/origins/histsci.htm
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9094/scimethod.html
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2843/is_4_29/ai_n15338075
243 posted on 04/27/2006 1:50:56 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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