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To: JCEccles; CarolinaGuitarman; RHINO369; Right Wing Professor; LibertarianSchmoe

The mullahs in Iran have a similar problem keeping western-thinking Iranians under their thumb. The more they squeeze, the more they engender resistance from people who resent being told how to think.

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Mullahs? Let's do some comparisons here:


The madrassases of Iran are compulsory. For most parents in the U.S. government schools are compulsory.

The madrassases of Iran will imprison and punish those who refuse to send their children to their schools. The government schools in the U.S. will punish and imprison those who refuse to cooperate with government school officials.

In the U.S. if a citizen refuses to pay his taxes to support the NON-neutral political, cultural, and religious agenda of the government schools, the citizen will have his home or business sold at sheriff's auction. I don't know what they would do in Iran.

Oh....and please don't say that parents in the U.S. can choose a private school or home school.

The government is running a price-fixed monopoly. Then when private schools are scarce the government threatens parents with police and foster care action if the government schools aren't used.

Government K-12 schools are very expensive to the taxpayer. They cost 1/3 more than our military, even in a time of war. This pushes both parents into the workforce just to pay taxes and live, thus making homeschooling impossible.

Government schools have so ill-educated a generation that many parents are too illiterate and innumerate to homeschool. Hey,,,,maybe that was the entire point of having government schools.

It seems to me that those who are the most vocal about supporting evolution and the least likely to support vouchers or tax credits so that all children ( religious or non-religious, pro or anti-evolution) can choose a school that will support and uphold family values rather than undermining them.

If government schools were abolished tomorrow, the acrimony over evolution and ID would evaporate like dew on grass on a summer's day.

Oh....and before anyone accuses me of being a Neanderthal or a mullah....I SUPPORT the theory of evolution.


419 posted on 04/19/2006 5:47:51 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime
Education is only the issue I'm fairly liberal on. I think a basic education should be provided for every child in America no matter how poor they are. So just abolishing state schools would be a huge disaster.

I'm for state paid vouchers. When I went to high school the district spent about 12 grand a year per kid. So I figure they could give each student 10 grand to spend on any school they want. Government saves money, crazy fundamentalists can send their children to schools that teach the world is 6000 years old and all the species of animals can fit on one boat, and all children get a better education.

Plus I think it'd be the single best way to lessen the barrier between the lower class and middle class.
420 posted on 04/19/2006 5:53:24 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: wintertime
The madrassases of Iran are compulsory. For most parents in the U.S. government schools are compulsory.

Bull.

The madrassases of Iran will imprison and punish those who refuse to send their children to their schools. The government schools in the U.S. will punish and imprison those who refuse to cooperate with government school officials.

More bull.

Oh....and please don't say that parents in the U.S. can choose a private school or home school.

Consider it said

Government K-12 schools are very expensive to the taxpayer. They cost 1/3 more than our military, even in a time of war. This pushes both parents into the workforce just to pay taxes and live, thus making homeschooling impossible.

You think we should be spending less than $8 K per pupil per year educating our kids? Since we have at least 2 taxpayers per pupil, you're claiming an expense of $4K a year forces two parents into the workforce?

Government schools have so ill-educated a generation that many parents are too illiterate and innumerate to homeschool. Hey,,,,maybe that was the entire point of having government schools.

Yeah, right. It was schools that made people illiterate.

It seems to me that those who are the most vocal about supporting evolution and the least likely to support vouchers or tax credits so that all children ( religious or non-religious, pro or anti-evolution) can choose a school that will support and uphold family values rather than undermining them.

Vouchers aren't going to decrease per pupil expenditure that much.

If government schools were abolished tomorrow, the acrimony over evolution and ID would evaporate like dew on grass on a summer's day.

You don't know much about fundamentalists.

Oh....and before anyone accuses me of being a Neanderthal or a mullah....I SUPPORT the theory of evolution.

Do us a favor. Don't.

440 posted on 04/19/2006 7:34:03 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: wintertime
"The government schools in the U.S. will punish and imprison those who refuse to cooperate with government school officials."


487 posted on 04/20/2006 4:13:55 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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