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Addressing Religious Beliefs (Intelligent Design) In Class
American School Board Journal ^
| 4/12/06
| Benjamin Dowling-Sender
Posted on 04/12/2006 11:48:01 AM PDT by Paddlefish
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The thoughts of a lawyer in the American School Board Journal. Personally, I think it's pretty accurate.
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To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
04/12/2006 11:56:13 AM PDT
by
dread78645
(Evolution. A dying theory since 1859.)
To: dread78645
Pretty good article. I'll crank up the ping list.
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posted on
04/12/2006 11:59:30 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:00:43 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
To: PatrickHenry
But we haven't finished arguing the other evo thread yet!
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:01:44 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: Paddlefish
If they'd allow elective Religion classes, 90% of this would go away. Once again, it's the government monopoly on education that really gets people steamed.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:01:49 PM PDT
by
FormerLib
("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
To: PatrickHenry
I've found people even more intellectually dishonest than some (SOME -- many are very well intentioned and ernest) of the YEC crowd here --- HIV deniers.
What a bunch of dangerous fools.
At least the dishonest YEC folks don't get people killed.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:10:18 PM PDT
by
MeanWestTexan
(Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
To: FormerLib
Once again, it's the government monopoly on education that really gets people steamed. Yup. A voucher system for both public and private schools (or homeschooling networks, etc) would solve this immediately. Employers being free to hire - and private universities being free to accept - whichever graduates they want. The problems, both in the education system and the broader headbutting, will go away in a heartbeat. So some children will suffer at the hands of their ignorant parents. Better than dragging everyone down with them.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:11:13 PM PDT
by
M203M4
===> Placemarker <===
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:16:31 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
To: mlc9852
We have a thread approaching 7000 posts. Would you like to push it over the top?
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:18:53 PM PDT
by
js1138
(~()):~)>)
To: Paddlefish
But science has repeatedly confirmed the counterintuitive theory of undirected evolution based on random variation and natural selection. "undirected evolution" has been repeatedly confirmed? That's edging toward proving a negative, I think.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:23:15 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
To: MeanWestTexan
At least the dishonest YEC folks don't get people killed. That depends. Science enhances our lives, and medical science (which is obviously informed by evolution) saves lives -- millions of them every year. If the YEC folks would behave like the Amish, adhering to their beliefs and bothering no one, that would be fine with everyone. But some of them want a theocracy, and would use political power to shut down science. They would cause the needless deaths of hundreds of millions. Annually. Forever.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:25:13 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
To: MeanWestTexan
Actually there have been people on these threads ranting against medicine and surgery. Not that the practice of medicine is perfect or saintly, but the rants imply that medicine itself is the work of Satan.
I am not exaggerating this.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:27:34 PM PDT
by
js1138
(~()):~)>)
To: js1138
I'll stay on the sidelines this round - lol.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:32:37 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: PatrickHenry
To: Alamo-Girl
A-Girl, I love you madly, and I really appreciate your contributions, but you don't have to thank me every time I ping you. It's just extra work for you, and I suspect you've got enough to do around here as it is.
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:52:13 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
To: All
Whoa! We just ended up in the backroom. What happened?
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:53:44 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
04/12/2006 12:56:31 PM PDT
by
Paddlefish
(Past tester for Preparations A through G)
To: Paddlefish
Let me state clearly that I fully agree with Judge Jones that ID is a religious belief rather than a scientific theory and that, therefore, the Establishment Clause prohibits public schools from teaching about ID as a scientific theory. It is not a scientific theory because it cannot be verified or falsified empirically and because it strays from sciences exclusive focus on natural explanations for phenomena in the natural world. Evolution, in contrast, is a scientific theory that has been empirically tested(what??? some intelligent human designed a test?) and that relies on natural explanations for phenomena in the natural world. To call an idea a theory is to accord it high status in the world of science. To pass the bar, a theory must make testable predictions,(such as...?) ... said Dennis Overbye, deputy science editor of the New York Times, in a recent article.
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posted on
04/12/2006 1:05:21 PM PDT
by
Mikmur
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