[muawiyah]

Let's turn this on it's head. If "Occam's razor demands that ID be discarded until such time it makes a testable claim", then, given the existence of ADM and its extensive use of recombinant DNA technology to create new/modified lifeforms (Frankenfood to Europeans), then, ID must be correct (pointing to ADM as the "intelligent designer").

That's why you don't want to use that particular argument ~ it's of value if and only if we have a static Universe. Since we have a constantly changing Universe, which may even have variations in the speed of light over time (and all the other kinds of changes you might have with that sort of thing depending on when you live in the Universe), we really do need to stick with arguments that accommodate change.

This suggests, BTW, that Occam's razor is a fundamentally flawed doctrine and should, itself, be discarded.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Let's turn this on it's head. If "Occam's razor demands that ID be discarded until such time it makes a testable claim", then, given the existence of ADM and its extensive use of recombinant DNA technology to create new/modified lifeforms (Frankenfood to Europeans), then, ID must be correct (pointing to ADM as the "intelligent designer")."

Um, no. How many times does it have to be said that the existence of ID among humans is in no way evidence for a designer that created the universe and guided the formation and then evolution of life? Apparently, not enough.

"That's why you don't want to use that particular argument ~ it's of value if and only if we have a static Universe."

It's of no value because it is logically fallacious.

"Since we have a constantly changing Universe, which may even have variations in the speed of light over time (and all the other kinds of changes you might have with that sort of thing depending on when you live in the Universe), we really do need to stick with arguments that accommodate change."

In other words, we can't know anything and any truth claim has equal validity? Sorry, post-modernism is not for me.
Your example also has nothing to do with whether there was a designer who created the universe and life.

"This suggests, BTW, that Occam's razor is a fundamentally flawed doctrine and should, itself, be discarded."

Or, it suggests you have made a logically fallacious argument.