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Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 05 April 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Zavien Doombringer

"so, mixing of DNA doesn't produce clones?"

No, it doesn't.


221 posted on 04/05/2006 1:33:45 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("Things are not what they always seem.")
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To: Junior

No thanks. I don't get my reading material from some rock band from way back when, I leave that for the Democrats.


222 posted on 04/05/2006 1:33:50 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
And what Myth is in the Bible?

The worldwide flood is a good place to start.

223 posted on 04/05/2006 1:33:58 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Bubbatuck

"That's because new, better information has been discovered. Do you think there should be NO speculation on these issues until there is 100% certainty?"

No. I understand that studying the bones of T.Rex allowed them to draw better conclusions about how it likely moved. But looking at bones and a few fossilized tracks can only tell you so much about how these critters lived - the popular dinosaur shows state as fact things that are almost purely speculation, giving fuel to the creationist's claims against the science.


224 posted on 04/05/2006 1:34:51 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

so, then, you have a clone that doesn't have any DNA? Somewhere DNA has to be combined to create...You cannot get life with out life.


225 posted on 04/05/2006 1:34:58 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Like I said, we can agree to disagree. I must say that I hope scientists continue to talk down to people, assume they are stupid, etc...it only bolsters the argument that scientists think they are smarter than God.


226 posted on 04/05/2006 1:35:28 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: Ichneumon
Dunkleosteus.

I told y'all I was a passable amateur paleozoologist...

227 posted on 04/05/2006 1:35:58 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
That's one big snapping turtle!

Actually, it's a fish.

228 posted on 04/05/2006 1:36:32 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Zavien Doombringer
to make the remark that humans did evolve from something similar sounds like it is wishful thinking that he, a human, likes the idea of being a creation evolved from a fishlike creature, instead of being created by a loving God in His likeness...

Strategerist suggested that humans are likely descended from something similar to this creature, in light of this new fossil evidence. The fact that you've misunderstood his assertion as a "wish" demonstrates a great deal about your understanding of reality.

I'd like to be the first to tell you that reality does not depend upon what you or anyone else hopes or wishes is true, and that making an assertion based on evidence is not the same as closing one's eyes and hoping really hard. Since science is a methodology based upon an understanding of this, you would do well to grasp it before commenting on another science thread.
229 posted on 04/05/2006 1:36:36 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: blowfish
Not a Myth:

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark.htm

230 posted on 04/05/2006 1:36:39 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: PatrickHenry
There's more waiving of arms and flailing about in this thread than there is in any spastic ward. It's the all-too predictable reaction to any new piece of evidence that ringingly confirms the theory of evolution (yet again).

These spastic twitches are the evidences of the fantastic new science of pig-ignorantism. If you don't understand the evidence, if you fill the threads with smokescreens, distractions, evasions, and denials, then there is nothing new and threatening to deal with at all.

231 posted on 04/05/2006 1:37:00 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: mlc9852
But if it makes you feel superior to insult those who believe the Bible, go for it.

That's not what he did. Try reading his posts again.

232 posted on 04/05/2006 1:37:25 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Zavien Doombringer

If that doesn't convince everyone, nothing will.


233 posted on 04/05/2006 1:38:26 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: yellowdoghunter
No, I was beautifully and wonderfully made in God's image.

He shorted you in a few areas.

234 posted on 04/05/2006 1:38:47 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: Ichneumon

I read his post and responded. I believe he is able to answer for himself, though I am sure he appreciates your help.


235 posted on 04/05/2006 1:39:05 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Right Wing Professor
You'll have to wait to see the research done in the 23rd century. That's the 21st century science.
236 posted on 04/05/2006 1:39:23 PM PDT by aNYCguy
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To: aNYCguy
I have a great concept of science, I also know that the base of science is with a hypothesis. That hypothesis is on an assumption of a "what if". Now, assuming you declare that this fossil has the origins of all life, you need to prove your hypothesis. Thus, theories are created.

Not wishful thinking, as some, before anyone can believe mankind evolved from any other creature, there has to be evidence of that, not creatures evolving to adapt to thier surroundings. Where is the proof of man evolving?

237 posted on 04/05/2006 1:39:49 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Not a Myth: http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahs-ark.htm

Unfortunately, that account violates a huge amount of the real-world evidence, and thus has been falsified.

Problems with a Global Flood

"Polystrate" Fossils

Review of John Woodmorappe's "Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study"

Dinosaur Prints in Coal

The Geologic Column and its Implications for the Flood

Is the Devonian Chattanooga Shale Really a Volcanic Ash-Fall Deposit?

Geology in Error?: The Lewis Thrust

Thrust Faults and the Lewis Overthrust

What Would We Expect to Find if the World had Flooded?

Problems with Walter Brown's Hydroplate Theory

Burrows in the Orkney Islands contradict the Global Flood

Why The Flood Can't Be Global

The Fish is Served With a Delicate Creamy Mercury Sauce

The Letter The Creation Research Society Quarterly Didn't Want You to See

Microfossil Stratigraphy Presents Problems for the Flood

Why Would the Flood Sort Animals by Cell Type?

Fleeing from the Flood

Isotopic Sorting and the Noah's Flood Model

Evidence from the Orkney Islands Against a Global Flood

While the Flood Rages, Termites Dig, Dinosaurs Dance and Cicadas Sing

More Nonsense on "TRUE.ORIGINS": Jonathan Sarfati's Support Of Flood Geology

Why Geology Shows Sedimentation to Be too Slow for a Global Flood

Creationist "Flood Geology" Versus Common Sense -- Or Reasons why "Flood Geology" was abandoned in the mid-1800s by Christian men of science

If you ever managed to resolve all of those apparently insurmountable problems for the creationist version of a flood scenario, feel free to come back and present us with the results of your research. Make sure that your thesis is consistent with the totality of the evidence, however, and not just one tiny corner of it in isolation while violating most of the rest (a common creationist tactic).
238 posted on 04/05/2006 1:40:05 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Zavien Doombringer
"so, then, you have a clone that doesn't have any DNA?"

Sorry, that is not a logical deduction from anything I said.

" Somewhere DNA has to be combined to create...You cannot get life with out life."

What does that have to do with what I said? You claimed to be a clone of your parents. As one of your parents was male and the other female, it is obvious that you could NOT be a clone of either one. You are a unique biological organism. There has never been someone with your genome before nor will there likely be one in the future. You only received one copy of the genes your parent's had, one from each at each allele. There were a number of crossovers and some mutations; the copying process is imperfect.
239 posted on 04/05/2006 1:40:05 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("Things are not what they always seem.")
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To: VadeRetro
When you have to resort to 3rd grade comments, you have already lost the argument. Didn't your mother teach you that????

We will just have to agree to disagree.

Still waiting on someone to explain the complexity of the cell to me or "molecular machinery". Nothing in Darwin's "THEORY" accounts for the complexity of the cell.

240 posted on 04/05/2006 1:40:31 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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