Posted on 04/05/2006 5:50:41 AM PDT by zook
WASHINGTON Accusing politicians of "pounding their chests" on immigration for short-term political gain, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the tone of the debate had been "hurtful" to him and his Mexican-born wife, Columba.
Bush, the younger brother of President Bush, reserved some of his sharpest criticism for conservatives in his own Republican Party, calling it "just plain wrong" to charge illegal immigrants with a felony, as a provision passed by the Republican-led House would do. He also opposed "penalizing the children of illegal immigrants" by denying them U.S. citizenship, an idea backed by some conservatives but not included in the legislation.
"My wife came here legally, but it hurts her just as it hurts me when people give the perception that all immigrants are bad," the Florida governor wrote in an e-mail exchange with The Times.
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Entitlement syndrome, and people wonder why we don't think the vast majority of illegals would vote republican.
We already have enough people with that syndrome, we don't need to import any more.
I don't think the same numerical number should be set for Mexico as for a country with 10 times less population, if that's what you are asking.
That's today's talking point - as I said: brick by brick.
Clarence, I was going to ignore you... but since you apparently like to parse
Yes, 'they are all immigrants' but NO, that was not my point and you know it.
My point and that of apparently overwhelming (99.99%) * of us here on FR is that there IS a distinction between legal immigration and illegal migration.
You may wonder, how did I come up with that statistic?
Simple, using your vanity thread that you have referred to at least 5 times, there are perhaps 8 or 9 who are against all legal immigration. So, 240,000 users 9duplicates included) - 8 = 99.9999625
Second, I did not *claim* that Jeb Bush is clouding the issue... I wrote that he IS clouding the issue.
How's that for parsing?
I said the dictionary definition of "immigrant" is what is accurate - I never extrapolated to millions of conservatives - look who is clouding the 2 now ; )
That's fine with me as long as you admit there's no evidence of "treason" under the U.S. Constitution.
"Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the tone of the debate had been "hurtful" to him and his Mexican-born wife, Columba."
What's hurtful to me, Jebbie-boy, is cheap politicians like you pandering to illegals. How about a little consideration for the rest of us--you know, those of us here in fly-over country who don't break the law, pay taxes, and in the past voted for people like you we thought might be conservative.
Don't even think about running for president. We've had two Bushes too many.
We have H1B and E-1/2 and EB-5 visas to bring in skilled workers and entrepreneurs.
So why are so many from mexico more entitled to come than those from other countries?
Why should we have to be the dumping ground for mexico's cast offs?
And would it be safe to say then that you are more concerned with where a person comes from than what the person does for a living?
Writing that Jeb IS clouding the issue is certainly a *claim* (which I believe is false). Even I make a distinction between legal immigration and illegal immigration - that's not my point - more than 8 or 9 here at FR want both forms stopped. I only want illegal immigration stopped. See the difference yet?
How are illegals that Reagan signed amnesty for registered and voting, I wonder?
An investigation by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) has found that the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (CIS), the agency within the Department of Homeland Security in charge of adjudicating immigration benefits such as citizenship and permanent residency, is rife with fraud. The report has not been released, but a draft of the report obtained by the Washington Times says, Adjudicators we spoke with said that managements focused attention on reducing the backlog placed additional pressure on them to process applications faster, thereby increasing the risk of making incorrect decisions, including approval of potentially fraudulent applications. The GAO report says that fraud in some categories of visas is as high as 30 percent.
Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), who has seen the report, told his colleagues on the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 2: Lets be realistic. Our government bureaucrats simply cannot implement a program for 11 million illegal aliens. Youd all be shocked if you learned about the internal fraud and abuse at the Citizenship and Immigration Service. I have been investigating the internal problems at CIS as well as their backlog of national security cases. The bureau doesnt have an effective practice for reviewing these cases. Officials are being bribed. Visas are being given away. Green cards are being sold. CIS is giving out interim benefits, which is a precursor for additional privileges.... And we want this agency to handle the program in an effective manner? Thats unrealistic.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/article_3670.shtml
You are playing games, quite frankly, and are only fooling yourself.
What happens when a president "exceeds boundaries"?
Please see my post #309 re: qualified immigrants (i.e., the kind of people who aren't categorically prohibited from entering the country).
"without the nuances" ? ? ? ? ? ?
Summer,
Didn't the S'Kerry One use "Nuances" as an excuse for political baffle-gab.
Just wondering.
"He doesn't give a cr*p about his oath of office. If he did, he would have followed his vow to uphold the constitution of the state of Florida in the case of Terri Schiavo."
Interesting point you make. Apparently, brain-damaged Americans have fewer rights than illegal aliens demanding shamnesty via mob manipulation tactics.
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