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To: Your Nightmare; Kellis91789
And why, exactly did you add pension and SS to the scenario
That's what Kellis does. skew the numbers to make it appear favorable to the fairtax.

Haven't you noticed? If this, then that...If that, then this. Like when he throws in the 3/4 of states payroll is educator's and the educator's wages salaries and benefits aren't subject to the new excise tax...Well, yes they are, only tuiton isn't subject to the Fairtax, there's nothing about "educator's" wages, salaries and benefits being exempt.

But what does that matter when your only argument is - if this, then that, if that, then this and neither this or that is factual but by doing this, then that he keeps moving the goal posts?

587 posted on 04/10/2006 8:53:05 PM PDT by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking, conjecture and lies. (no it's not a mistake)
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To: lewislynn

"Numbers skewing" is Nightie's pasttime - but you probably haven't noticed that.


599 posted on 04/11/2006 9:35:33 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: lewislynn; Your Nightmare; pigdog

Do you have some crow handy, Lewis ? Once again you demonstrate that you don't really understand HR25.




[Services performed by an employee who is employed by (1) an employer in the regular course of
the employer’s trade or business, (2) a not-for-profit organization, (3) an employer that is a
government enterprise, and (4) taxable employers (i.e., government school districts and
universities) directly providing education and training are not taxable.]

From the Plain English Summary

http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/pdf/FairTax_Act_Summary.pdf#search='fairtax%20plain%20english'

Or the more cumberson text of HR25 in Sect 2(a)(14)(IV):

`(14) TAXABLE PROPERTY OR SERVICE-

`(A) GENERAL RULE- The term `taxable property or service' means--

`(i) any property (including leaseholds of any term or rents with respect to such property) but excluding--

`(I) intangible property, and

`(II) used property, and

`(ii) any service (including any financial intermediation services as determined by section 801).

`(B) SERVICE- For purposes of subparagraph (A), the term `service'--

`(i) shall include any service performed by an employee for which the employee is paid wages or a salary by a taxable employer, and

`(ii) shall not include any service performed by an employee for which the employee is paid wages or a salary--

`(I) by an employer in the regular course of the employer's trade or business,

`(II) by an employer that is a not-for-profit organization (as defined in section 706),

`(III) by an employer that is a government enterprise (as defined in section 704), and

`(IV) by taxable employers to employees directly providing education and training.




"... taxable employers ..." would be the local government, and "... employees directly providing education and training..." sure seems to describe school teachers.


615 posted on 04/11/2006 6:55:02 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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