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To: Kellis91789
entitlement payments ($800B)
The FairTax bill requires Social Security payments to be increased by the amount of the FairTax.


Federal and military pensions ($300B ?)
Pensions would be an "employee benefit" and would be taxable.


block grants to State and local government ($600B)
I'm assuming the state and local governments are actually going to spend the money. If the amount doesn't increase, the "real" value of these grants are reduced. That might be a good idea, but it's kinda hard to compare two systems when one is cutting the amount of government.


educational and research grants ($100B)
Again, the money spent for research grants (research is not "tuition for primary, secondary, or postsecondary level education; or job-related training") would be taxable. If the government doesn't increase the amount of these grants, the "real" value of them declines.


probably other stuff that is not a "purchase" and is not an "employee compensation"
Like what?
562 posted on 04/10/2006 11:55:23 AM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: Your Nightmare

[The FairTax bill requires Social Security payments to be increased by the amount of the FairTax.]

Wrong. "This section makes sure that the cost of living adjustment for Social Security benefits includes
price increases, if any, caused by the FairTax." You see the "if any" part ? No increase in SS benefits if there is no increase in prices.

[Pensions would be an "employee benefit" and would be taxable.]

Wrong again. Contributions INTO a government pension are taxable. Payments FROM a pension are not.

[I'm assuming the state and local governments are actually going to spend the money. If the amount doesn't increase, ...]

The FairTax has no provision for increasing block grants to State and local government. Let's stick to the actual provisions of HR25, shall we ?

[Again, the money spent for research grants (research is not "tuition for primary, secondary, or postsecondary level education; or job-related training") would be taxable.]

Wrong again. If the grant for research is to a not-for-profit organization, then there is no FairTax. There is no FairTax on contributions to not-for-profit organizations in general. A for-profit company like Genral Dynamics would charge the FairTax on a research CONTRTACT but a University would not charge FairTax on a research GRANT. Is that clear ?

[Like what?]

How about foreign aid ? Or Katrina relief ? Or anytime the government is just handing out money rather than purchasing stuff ? Sure, the recipient may not be able to buy as much stuff with the government check, but that doesn't automatically mean the government check must be larger.




566 posted on 04/10/2006 12:54:25 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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