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To: ancient_geezer
Retail sales taxes are hardly unprecidented in the world...

You dingbat. What's unprecedented in the world is complete elimination of government, as a way to end the oppression once and for all. You're positive you already know that, without Teddy Kennedy watching you like a hawk, you and your neighbors would erupt in a shooting war for domination of your block. You dismiss such a suggestion as guaranteed "chaos", when you haven't the foggiest what it would really be like.

By contrast, you also make confident predictions about the impact of the "fair tax", which are easily seen to be absurd on their face.

So far you've revealed two ridiculous assumptions about humans. First, you assume that they do not adapt to new conditions (they do). Second, you assume that, unless Teddy Kennedy keeps a sharp eye on them, they'd all suddenly start raping, pillaging and murdering each other (they wouldn't).

Just looking at the result of such revolutionary societies that have many examples throughout the world.

Ignorance clearly breeds absolute confidence. But we already knew that. It has seldom or never been tried in history. On the occasions that it has was tried, such as colonial Pennsylvania for about a decade, it has worked well. But, being ignorant of such things, you're comfortable throwing a dart at a map and saying, "Rwanda. See? It doesn't work!" as if Rwanda was a relevant example.

Not interested in the least in going down your path.

Of course not: you believe in oppression; you simply want the oppressors to do things your way.

Seen to many examples of anachy and where it leads in the world.

It's safe to say that you've never seen an anarcho-capitalist society in all your life. You're picking some random hell-hole and labeling it that, meaninglessly. I might as well counter, "I've seen enough brothels to know that your philosophy doesn't work either."

236 posted on 04/06/2006 7:14:44 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (I don't WANNA be like Canada, thanks.)
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To: Shalom Israel

You dingbat. What's unprecedented in the world is complete elimination of government, as a way to end the oppression once and for all.

 

There are plenty of examples in the world of such attempts. They end up being less than anarchist would hope for. Mainly tyranny and dictatorships that gravitate to the vacuum created by no on at the helm.

By contrast, you also make confident predictions about the impact of the "fair tax", which are easily seen to be absurd on their face.

So far you've revealed two ridiculous assumptions about humans. First, you assume that they do not adapt to new conditions (they do). Second, you assume that, unless Teddy Kennedy keeps a sharp eye on them, they'd all suddenly start raping, pillaging and murdering each other (they wouldn't).

Foolishness and total fallacy at work, lets see you succumb to the use of both adhominen strawman attacks not to mention total absurdity to bolster your lack of plan to get from where we are today, to where we ought to be.

You are welcome to your anarchy. I will have none of it. The world has seen the results of anarchy and it isn't pretty.

It has seldom or never been tried in history.

It has been attempted endless times through out history every revolution is merely the anarchist at work, unfortunately the promise of anarchy morphs into tyranny before the revolution even completes it process. Sorry not interested at all in your idea of a utopian world without government.

Of course not: you believe in oppression; you simply want the oppressors to do things your way.

Since we know that in your lexicon, government = oppressors. That is merely stating the obvious.

Yes I want govenment to operate in a particular manner, that being the expression of the Constitution as written and established by the founders of this nation. Always interesting to watch an anarchist at work in twisting even the basic meaning of words to couch his arguments in language that hides the reality of what he actually is saying.

It's safe to say that you've never seen an anarcho-capitalist society in all your life. You're picking some random hell-hole and labeling it that, meaninglessly. I might as well counter, "I've seen enough brothels to know that your philosophy doesn't work either."

Since you claim there never has been one, you have never seen one in all your life either. From what I have seen of you I doubt I would ever care to see the result of such. All anarchy guarantees is no one at the helm when the ship hits the rocks.


239 posted on 04/06/2006 7:47:59 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: Shalom Israel

Well, no,. actually you might as well just zip your lip since most of the stuff you post is right out of the Tax Protesters Handbook.

It makes no sense in the real world.


400 posted on 04/08/2006 6:25:32 PM PDT by pigdog
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