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To: Shalom Israel

Which is exactly why the calculation is hogwash.

Which caculation is that?

The legislation (HR25) sets the base tax rate at 23% commensurate with current measures of taxation with respect to consumption, from there it is up to the American electorate to go after Congress Critters to make changes which would be more appropriate as federal spending decreases.

Tax rates should not be a function of old tax law in period. It should be based on rational concerns over providing that minimum necessary functionality of government in performance of constitutional duty.

When you've been around the block a few times, you'll realize that every loophole is a a provision of some legislation.

You definition of loophole is fine, however your application of it misses the point. "Used property" as provided for in the legislation is that which has had the tax already paid on it. Why would you want to tax something twice, which appears to be what you desire to do in calling prohibiting tax on used (previously taxed items) property a loophole?

A loophole only occures where an item has not been taxed at all that should be covered under the legislation. It certainly does not include that which has been taxed, and should not be taxed again.

It becomes a "loophole" after the fact, when someone or other decides he doesn't like the unexpected consequences of the original law.

What unintended consequence occurs when items are only taxed once at retail sale only by explicit provision of the bill. The intended consequence is that item not be taxed more than once.

Apparently you believe they ought to be tax one or more times, so just how many times do you figure any product ought to be taxed by the federal government and how do you intend to assure that products are taxed the number of times you define to be appropriate? The idea is to simplify by going to a pure use and consumption tax applied only once to products at time of sale to the first consumer of the final product.

174 posted on 04/05/2006 5:53:28 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: ancient_geezer
Which caculation is that?

All static calculations are fantasy, because they assume that humans do not adapt. Humans adapt.

Tax rates should not be a function of old tax law in period. It should be based on rational concerns...

Socialist claptrap. Taxation is theft.

You definition of loophole is fine, however your application of it misses the point.

The point is much larger than "used" versus "new". The point is that humans adapt. Every legal behavior that people adopt to avoid the tax will be labeled a "loophole" in the future.

Apparently you believe they ought to be tax one or more times, so just how many times do you figure any product ought to be taxed by the federal government...

Zero.

180 posted on 04/05/2006 6:41:40 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (I don't WANNA be like Canada, thanks.)
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