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To: Panzerlied
"If we, as a people, lack the moral fiber to avoid massive drug or alcohol abuse, how shall a war on drugs and alcohol save us from same?"

That philosophy, of course, would also support the legalization of gambling, pornography, prostitution, gay marriage, and a host of other issues (polygamy, bestiality, etc.). Do you also support those?

"I think if we ended the WOD today we would see neither an increase nor decrease in drug abuse."

Unlike years ago, our society today relies on the law to guide behavior. How often have you heard, "Yes I did that and it was wrong -- but it wasn't illegal!"?

Legalizing an activity implies societal acceptance. It certainly allows for justification in the sense that the attitude is, "If it's legal I can do it and don't you dare impose your morals on me".

Given that, if we ended the WOD and legalized drugs, I would guess that drug use would at least double, if not triple. Keep in mind that in 1979, drug use was over double was it is today -- and it was illegal. Enforcement of the drug laws and a public attitude change (just say no) was all that lowered it.

And you propose eliminating those two factors.

218 posted on 03/29/2006 11:42:40 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Legalizing an activity implies societal acceptance.

C'mon---that's a bit of a stretch. We no longer criminalize adultery, and adultery remains socially unacceptable.

223 posted on 03/29/2006 12:09:55 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robertpaulsen; Panzerlied
Panzerlied asks:

"If we, as a people, lack the moral fiber to avoid massive drug or alcohol abuse, how shall a war on drugs and alcohol save us from same?"

paulsen dissembles:

That philosophy, of course, would also support the legalization of gambling, pornography, prostitution, gay marriage, and a host of other issues (polygamy, bestiality, etc.).
Do you also support those? -- Unlike years ago, our society today relies on the law to guide behavior.

There you go again paulsen. You admit that "years ago" we had the freedom to commit the 'sins' you list above.

How often have you heard, "Yes I did that and it was wrong -- but it wasn't illegal!"?

Owning 'dangerous products' like drugs, guns, porn, - has never been constitutionally 'illegal', - and never will be.
Engaging in morally repugnant activities like gambling, pornography, prostitution, gay marriage, polygamy, bestiality, etc. -- In private, -- has never been constitutionally 'illegal', - and never will be.

You communitarian warriors simply cannot admit that you are anti-constitutional.

235 posted on 03/29/2006 12:48:58 PM PST by tpaine
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