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To: maine-iac7
The steam coming out of their ears crowd are the ones most likely to be responsible for killing any reasonable shot at immigration reform. They won't settle for anything other than a full loaf, and the lefties will settle for nothing more than no loaf at all. Guess who wins if we dig in our heels and refuse any compromise?

As someone else said, anyone who truly believes we're going to round up by force more than 12 million people and ship them out is living in a dream. That is never going to happen.

Never. Anyone who believes otherwise is politically tone deaf.

Here's what you do: the very first thing -- the goal that trumps all others -- is to secure that southern border. Probably with a fence. By stopping future illegal immigration, we've already won 75% of the battle. Plus, politically, its a big winner. The Dems played the security card on the ports. Well, how do they counter the security card played on an open southern border? They can't. People support that concept both for reasons of national security and to stop illegal economic immigration. We push that, and we get most of what we must have on immigration, and gain politically besides.

After that bill is passed and funded, we then address the immigrants who still live here. Now this is the part that's politically going to be the toughest, which is why we only hit it after we get security on the border.

That's when you set up some type of guest worker program for those who remain here. It requires legal registration, and has strict requirements for English literacy and civics. You can't pass the English test within 2 years, you're gone. Maybe some exceptions for family members if others have passed. But the point is that you don't let them remain a segregated, isolated part of the community. Either they integrate liguistically and civically, or they get bounced.

It's going to take something like that, including guest worker provisions, to address the problem of those illegals already here. Because just trying to boot them out will never make it past Congress, and certainly not past a Dem filibuster.

682 posted on 03/28/2006 6:19:33 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: XJarhead
The steam coming out of their ears crowd are the ones most likely to be responsible for killing any reasonable shot at immigration reform. They won't settle for anything other than a full loaf, and the lefties will settle for nothing more than no loaf at all. Guess who wins if we dig in our heels and refuse any compromise?

this is what frightens me even more than the whole illegals problem,

I am far from unconcerned about illegals - but I am more concerned about people ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

We have the socialists who have, over the past 30-40 yrs successfully infiltrating and taking over the Dems - They know if they don't get back in control NOW - all may well be for not. They are hate/fear driven.

They are also in league with the UN - and intend to put this country under it.

The UN has all their ducks in a row - papers/plans drawn and ready to: Take our sovereignty away, put our military under their control (One world Gov't) institute total gun control, every child born will be registered with them in the hour of their birth, control and tax the Internet...The end of our democracy, our Constitution, our freedom, not only of the Internet, but literally.

That would be catastrophic enough but - the unholy hoards who are intent on bringing back the Caliphate will be able to move on all us 'Infidels" across the world with impunity...until it is far too late. (That is, unless you are confident that the UN will step right up to the plate in time - like they are known (NOT) to do.

And why do you think this illegal issue is now taking up all the air time? The dems are masters - with their comrades of the MSM - of diversion.

The illegals problem is hardly new - important to solve,yes, but will not be solved overnight.

IN the meantime, the translations and discoveries coming to light in the documents that are getting translated is off on the back burner somewhere - until it wont be a story anymore and it wont make any difference WHAT is discovered.

We can't be a one issue party - we can't scream that if Bush doesn't do exactly as we demand (and there are several different 'demands' on the solutions, so he can hardly comply with them all - ) we can't say to h*ll with him, let the destroyers take over.

The enemy is outflanking us with diversionary strategy - the most used tool in their arsenal. You'd think we could recognize this by now. So do we wont to win an immediate battle today and let them win the war, or do take off the blinders and stick together?

"US: Together we stand or we fall apart." m.t.

692 posted on 03/28/2006 12:28:35 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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