[CowboyJay]

"Choosing a time for victory is not the same as doing wrong."

If not us, who? If not now, when? If Bush's scamnesty goes through, we are no longer a sovereign nation. There will be no ground left on which to stand and fight. We will have lost the war for fear of fighting the battle.

[Pukin Dog]

If Bush's scamnesty goes through, we are no longer a sovereign nation.

We will only cease to be a sovereign nation, when we can no longer blow the crap out of another nation that wants to find out.