To be fair, Lucretius (99 B.C. to 55 B.C.) said something very much along that line. However no one since then that comes to mind. (Creationists are sooo first century B.C.)
I guess Heartlander's only perceived choices are Lucretius (circa 2000 years ago) or whatever it is he believes (circa I guess about 4000 years ago). Well there goes at least two thousand years of effort down the drain.
What are your choices? Im curious