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To: snowsislander
It is a 0.2% difference! Does Japan use the same stringent methodology to measure the unemployment rate as we do? I know that the European countries use a less stringent method to measure or else their real unemployment rate will be even larger than what is now.
225 posted on 03/04/2006 8:33:46 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: jveritas
It is a 0.2% difference!

Japan is far more protective of its domestic industries than the US. It also has a low unemployment rate. Again, low unemployment is related to domestic economic policies not to international trade.
227 posted on 03/04/2006 8:35:53 PM PST by gogoman
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To: jveritas
It is a 0.2% difference! Does Japan use the same stringent methodology to measure the unemployment rate as we do? I know that the European countries use a less stringent method to measure or else their real unemployment rate will be even larger than what is now.

Here's a graph for the Japanese unemployment rate from 2003 to present:

The BLS system unfortunately doesn't seem to have a good way to make sure that if I use one of their graphs that you will actually see the same graph, so here is the same data for the U.S. in both graphic and tabular form just to be sure:

Series Id:           LNS14000000
Seasonal Adjusted
Series title:        (Seas) Unemployment Rate
Labor force status:  Unemployment rate
Type of data:        Percent
Age:                 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.9 5.7  
2004 5.7 5.6 5.7 5.5 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4  
2005 5.2 5.4 5.1 5.1 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.1 4.9 5.0 4.9  
2006 4.7                        

As you can see from the data, over the last two years generally Japan's unemployment rate has been more than 0.2% below ours. For instance, in 2005, Japan's unemployment rate never exceed 4.6%, whereas ours was generally about 5.0%, with lows of 4.9% in August, October, and December.)

As to stringency, well, actually, I don't think either the U.S. or Japan uses a particularly stringent method (in fact, I think Germany's new methodology for calculating unemployment rates could be considered more stringent than either Japan's or the United States' and it is currently 12.2%), but I believe that the U.S. and Japanese methodologies are now not all that far different with the latest revisions to the Japanese system. While I always have exactly the same question as you raised about how comparable rates actually are, I have less concern now about comparing the U.S. and Japanese rates.

Unfortunately, I don't have time presently to dig out the description of the exact methodologies for you, but both are available on government websites (for the U.S., it would be found on the BLS, and for Japan it is probably on the Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare website.)

240 posted on 03/04/2006 9:01:01 PM PST by snowsislander
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