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Bush: Outsourcing painful, but remedy is worse
CNN.com ^ | Friday, March 3, 2006 Posted: 1640 GMT (0040 HKT)

Posted on 03/04/2006 2:25:11 PM PST by Gengis Khan

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To: rcocean

I've already answered it, dear; upthread. Missed it did you? LOL


321 posted on 03/05/2006 2:40:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Well, I'll let you in some personal info - joined army in 1982 and later booted out for bad eyesight.

Which I thought was absurd - but at that time they could afford to be choosy.


322 posted on 03/05/2006 2:57:22 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: MNJohnnie
The last major Protectionist Tarriff was passed during Herbert Hoover's Administration. Go LOOK read the facts of what your ignorant nostrum "protectionism" ACTUALLY creates.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Ronald Reagan didn't hesitate to use protectionism when the US was getting flooded with cheap goods in the 1980s. Unlike what we have now he was for fair trade. So before making such hysterical comments you might want to do a little research.

323 posted on 03/05/2006 3:43:25 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: rcocean; nopardons
nopardons is a dissembler. It will say one thing, then pretend it didn't, than slap the abuse button if you respond in kind to the insults it spews. It will then call in it's reserve dissemblers to further antagonize you. It is the epitome of a troll.

Don't play with trolls......it will just frustrate you, trust me.....;)

324 posted on 03/05/2006 4:39:49 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

In the 1930's when the economic engine shut down for a while we still had our values, our traditions, and our way of life. We still had our local ecomics to feed us and to keep us going. If you turn off the "Mind-Numbed" portion of your heart then it is not hard to imagine where we will be the next time the economic engine shuts down. And it will happen soon. Globalism has changed all that united us in our souls. And we have been stripped of those souls. Now instead of unique and special individuals providing for our needs...We have turned to "The Machine". The machine has no values, and it has no heart, and it knows no God. For the vast majority of Americans it has been a huge step down from what really matters. It has stripped from us the ability love and to be trully happy on the inside.


325 posted on 03/05/2006 5:51:24 PM PST by Revel
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To: ScreamingFist
I see that you enjoy lying your head off. WhhhoooooBOT; that bilge was rich!

I don't hit the abuse button; but YOU and your pals do!

I don't "dissemble"; but UOU sure do and in spades!

And I most assuredly don't call in anyone; but YOU do!

As a matter of fact, it YOU and only YOU, who wants this childish flame war. But you aren't any good at this, either. LOL

326 posted on 03/05/2006 7:37:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: rcocean

See what I mean....it would be comical if it wasn't so pitiful.


327 posted on 03/05/2006 7:54:05 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Revel
I think "globalism" is a term we use but aren't always in agreement as to what we are talking about. I am speaking of the world economy, not some one world government.

Globalism has changed all that united us in our souls. And we have been stripped of those souls. Now instead of unique and special individuals providing for our needs...We have turned to "The Machine". The machine has no values, and it has no heart, and it knows no God. For the vast majority of Americans it has been a huge step down from what really matters. It has stripped from us the ability love and to be truly happy on the inside.

Perhaps this is just semantics but it is Communism, in all its disguises, that has done all you describe. It goes back to FDR and his multiple Communist advisors surrounding him, including his wife, who started this slide and it was accelerated by his disciple, LBJ, and his Great Society programs.

I was living in Louisiana in the 1960s when Edwin Edwards was Governor. He was indicted for accepting $1,000,000 each from two different people for state certificates, one to open a hospital and another to open a nursing home. I couldn't imagine why anyone would pay to open either because they were all non profit at the time. Nearly all were run and sponsored by churches or other citizens' organizations. Only a very few were run by a government agency, usually the county or parish, and they were charity hospitals. In some states the state ran Old Mens and Old Ladies homes for the elderly with no families to care for them. All were well run and low costs.

Medicare was passed in 1965 and that brought about what you are now bemoaning. Unless you are using Communism and Globalism interchangeably, globalism has nothing to do with it.

It is also Communism that is trying to drive God from the public square and eventually from our lives altogether. Communism is the culprit.

328 posted on 03/05/2006 8:37:45 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Gloablism is a form of communisim. Please read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b80051c3e46.htm

And since you must be a Rush fan then read the chapter on Multiculturalism in his first book. Don't expect him to stand by that now however.


329 posted on 03/06/2006 9:49:55 AM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
Gloablism is a form of communisim. Please read this:

I know that globalism can be used by Communism, as can all our freedoms, but it doesn't have to be. It can just as easily be a natural part of global free enterprise.

I bought and read both of Rush's books when they were new but I can't remember anything specific in them. They basically said what I already believed so they were just absorbed as supporting information.

I will read the link and comment if it seems appropiate.

330 posted on 03/06/2006 11:18:35 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: oceanview
and others in the field had best include an MBA as part of their science degrees, if they want jobs where they don't have to compete with workers in India and China.

Why does everyone expect that India and China don't have people getting MBAs? If they have the production, they will soon have the management.

331 posted on 03/06/2006 11:30:43 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: brainstem223

That is why I truly believe we will not invade Iran. We don't have the material to wage a long term global war.

And the other side knows it.


332 posted on 03/06/2006 12:21:04 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: willstayfree

Well, if you had any class at all, you would just ignore it without the digs at expertise. but I sustect they arise out of principle more than fact.


333 posted on 03/06/2006 12:38:29 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: redgolum

Wonerful effects of golbalism, that leaves us sitting ducks. There isnt a single weapon with electronics that we can manufacture if in an emergency, imports were cut off.

If we needed to raise an army of 12 million, the size of the WWII forces of sixty years ago, we couldn't make enough combat boots to shod them, much less stitch uniforms to send them into battle.

China could field three times that number of fully equipped troups, no sweat.


334 posted on 03/06/2006 1:30:42 PM PST by brainstem223
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To: TomGuy

The rationale? The rationale is that they can send an American job to India because they don't have to pay health care and then they can bust the American labor market with flooding it with cheap labor. Then there will be untold profits for country club Republicans, replensishing RNC coffers for each election cycle. Meanwhile, you get screwed.


335 posted on 03/06/2006 1:35:11 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: willstayfree
So, is this what you regard as proof? As you regard your information as superior to everyone else's, where did you get it? You seem to think that the main consideration in hiring is cost and companies want to save money. You think this applies to engineers who design new products and keep the company on the cutting edge. You are out of your mind!

As an employer I looked for the best I could find and was willing to pay to keep valuable employees. Employees are not only the biggest expense but an invaluable and indispensible asset. The only ones I would want to let go were the ones who didn't do their job. Not all employees are created equal, after all.

336 posted on 03/06/2006 3:33:16 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Not only that, they'll get Indians immmigrated to the US who will vote for people that suppots H1B visas, etc. etc. etc.

THat's how it works. Indians hire Indians, even in the US. We have sent one of the guys to the local university to look for recruits. He's Indian. He came back with ONLY Indian candidates. We ran through the whole resume and actually found better candidates than the ones he picked. Needless to say, we pounded on him pretty hard for his discriminatory practices.


337 posted on 03/06/2006 9:14:30 PM PST by pganini
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Karl Marx Supports Free Trade:

"But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade. "



338 posted on 03/07/2006 5:57:48 PM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean

Marx was wrong still again. Anyway, global trade is facilitated by the rapid advances in transportation and communication. Free trade is an adjunct to that. Free trade itself is not a political system. If it were going to benefit any system more than others that system would be free enterprise.


339 posted on 03/07/2006 8:10:30 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: pganini
THat's how it works. Indians hire Indians, even in the US. We have sent one of the guys to the local university to look for recruits. He's Indian. He came back with ONLY Indian candidates. We ran through the whole resume and actually found better candidates than the ones he picked. Needless to say, we pounded on him pretty hard for his discriminatory practices.

Check out the over-representation of Indians at the Director and VP level at most US tech firms.

It's just a jobs program for their third-world countrymen (as is CMM).

You should have fired his ass!

340 posted on 03/08/2006 4:47:56 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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