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Will It Become 'Portgate?'
GOPUSA.com ^ | February.28, 2006 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 02/28/2006 1:11:19 PM PST by Reagan Man

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To: bayourant
We have 2 and half years till the new President comes in. I am not saying you must agree 100 percent with him but this attacking Bush all the time is going to Destroy us and take all the Prez, the HOuse, and the Senate away from us before its all over. If the Prez goes down we will have no leader to take over for speaking for us till the Republican convention of 2008.

I suspect that if the Democrats win it will be many, many years before we republicans get back in. They will pass a lot of laws quickly. They will use the nuclear option. There will be little mercy. They will give away anything for the vote. I suspect the county would be in civil disarray before there would be any change in government.

201 posted on 02/28/2006 10:35:51 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: bayourant
>"Then pull our military out of there. Order all American business out. If Hamas is such a big issue then MY God why are paying Military leases to them."<


-it's understandable and logical that (just as we need Saudi oil), we would need the UAE Dubai port for our military to operate in the middle-east.

But out of 3000 ports here in the U.S., do we really desperately need the UAE to operate 21 terminals here?
No. This deal is more advantageous for the UAE, then it is for the U.S. There are other well qualified operators from democratic non-Islamic countries whose government does not endorse terrorist organizations like Hamas, including operators right here in the U.S. of A.

One of the arguments I'm hearing is that moderate Muslims will be offended by our blocking them from this deal. This will push them over the edge to radicalism. If that's all it takes, (and events in Denmark over a cartoon would indicate it doesn't take much to push them over the edge) then this deal is being promoted more out of fear of the UAE's reaction then it is about promoting our own security.

If this deal falls through for the Crown Prince of Dubai (Sheikh Maktoum) don't worry about him. He will still be able to buy all of the hundreds of the Royal Maktoum family members Mercedes Benzes, and million dollar race horses.

202 posted on 02/28/2006 10:56:47 PM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: Reagan Man
No foeign entity deserves to have any managemnt control over commercial port of entry operations. None at all. Whether it be the British, the Red Chinese, the Saudi's or the UAE. Commercial operations of American ports of entry should be controlled by Aemricans. Period.

you are insinuating something that does not exist. The state, county or city port authority controls ports located in their area. Don't believe it call a port. States are not going to give their ports or management to the federal government or anybody else. That you would portray them as operated by other interests is dishonest. the states, counties, and cities receive the revenue from the ports not the federal government. Don't take my word for it nor your own opinion, look it up or pick up the phone. I have been a importer for a long time and your view as to how ports work is far from reality.

203 posted on 02/28/2006 11:00:12 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Howlin

The opposite of a Bush basher is a Dem enabler.


204 posted on 02/28/2006 11:04:38 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Reagan Man
Just no DPW/UAE sweetheart/quid pro quo deal to manage US commercial ports of entry on the US homeland.

I thought you might have misspoke before but that you would continue to repeat the lie suggests you have another agenda.

206 posted on 02/28/2006 11:17:46 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41
I have one agenda in this entire issue. Its a conservative agneda and it says, keep foreigners away from managing the commercial aspects of US ports of entry. Period.

Without the CFIUS approval no deal with DPWorld could have went into effect. Period. After pressure from the GOP Congress and American public opinion, the Bush administration reversed itself and has now decided to have a second evaluation. A full 45-day investigation into the DPWorld deal. This was a sweetheart deal. Whether it turns out to be a quid pro quo or bureaucratic corruption, has yet to be proven. We shall see.

207 posted on 02/28/2006 11:36:18 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: jec41; JaneAustin

Freeper Jane Austin (who is an outstanding researcher) just freepmailed me that information as well.


208 posted on 03/01/2006 4:04:41 AM PST by Peach
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To: jec41

OK, I get it now. You believe CAIR's Hooper over Paul Sperry. And you think UAE has freedom of religion and freedom of the press. Inconvenient facts be damned.

This post of yours proves your first post was incorrect. You may try to gloss over the facts presented, even try to rebut them with pro-Muslim "facts". But the facts remain.

I'm through with you. Buh bye.


209 posted on 03/01/2006 5:53:15 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: jec41
The opposite of a Bush basher is a Dem enabler.

You have that backwards.

210 posted on 03/01/2006 6:38:27 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin
The opposite of a Bush basher is a Dem enabler. You have that backwards.

You are correct!! Imust have been asleep. How about a dem enabler is a Bush basher.

211 posted on 03/01/2006 8:55:25 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Reagan Man
I have one agenda in this entire issue. Its a conservative agneda and it says, keep foreigners away from managing the commercial aspects of US ports of entry. Period.

That has not occurred not has it been suggested or proposed. The ports are managed by the port authority and none are of a foreign nature. The issue is a falsehood, not a fact. The agenda is to provoke a furor or argument concerning a falsehood, to support ones opinion.

212 posted on 03/01/2006 9:21:45 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41

Obviously, you don't live in the real world with the rest us conservatives. Sounds like you dwell in the outer limits of the twilight zone. So be it. When you return to reality, I'll be around.


213 posted on 03/01/2006 9:53:44 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: savedbygrace
OK, I get it now. You believe CAIR's Hooper over Paul Sperry. And you think UAE has freedom of religion and freedom of the press. Inconvenient facts be damned.

No, I would not accept Hooper's or Sperry's opinion. They both have a agenda. Sperry has a opinion but has not supported it with facts. Hooper denied a accusation by Sperry. Sperry has not provided any facts to support any accusation.

Posted below is a Sperry article and a example of his opinion. Facts need not get in the way.

"We are in a world of official lies as a method of government."

"Or, you can continue to be a proud member of the Coalition of the Willing to Believe White House Propaganda about Iraq. And you can go right on standing fast with Bush and his talk radio lapdogs.

But know that you are standing on the wrong side of truth and history – a place where the entire GOP may find itself stuck for many years if it doesn’t soon divest itself from Bush and his Iraq debacle."

I don't think nor would most think that our method of government is nothing but all official lies, but Sperry does and he purports the opinion without a proof or fact of one official lie. Our method of government is by the constitution. Is it all a lie?

This post of yours proves your first post was incorrect. You may try to gloss over the facts presented, even try to rebut them with pro-Muslim "facts". But the facts remain.

Your posted opinion that opinions are facts is noted. How ever it is but your own opinion.

214 posted on 03/01/2006 10:23:24 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Reagan Man
Obviously, you don't live in the real world with the rest us conservatives. Sounds like you dwell in the outer limits of the twilight zone. So be it. When you return to reality, I'll be around.

I don't think that all the rest of us Conservatives on this thread would agree with your opinions so they don't live in reality. It appears that in your own mind you have redefined and restricted Conservatives to only those who would agree with your opinions. My reality is that I live in a world where facts are observed. That you would live in a world of opinion is your own making and agenda. Opinion is considered the root of insanity. When you propose some supported facts I will be around.

215 posted on 03/01/2006 10:51:06 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: All

The UAE has a population of a little more than 4 million. Most reside in large cities of less than 800 thousand people either by the sea or a oasis. The rest of UAE is sand and rock and is not habitable. The population growth since 1900 is mostly by immigration and is composed of many ethnic groups. A large part are Pakistanis and Indians and many are American. Before the discovery of oil in 1960 they were already prosperous by trade and enterprise.
They have a Army of 65,000 and most are stationed in Dubai. Most of the troops are borrowed or rented from other nations like Pakistan, Jordan or Egypt. All officers of the core guard must be UAE citizens. The Army's sole objective is to protect the Emirates and government. The air force is 3500 and has purchase F-16's and mirage jets from the US and France to patrol the coast line. The navy has 12 patrol boats that protect the Dubai port by sea. They possess no nuclear capability nor do they appear to be seeking one. They have not fought a war although their government has supported others politically and by funding.

The Dubai port is one of the largest, most modern and secure ports in the world. It has always been the base of their economy since 1900.

Recently there has been a startling revelation. The UAE, ~4 million terrorists of mostly Muslim faith are going to attack the ports of the largest superpower in the world. They will then defend themselves with a rented army.

Its a most sinister plot. They are going to have DP (a shipping company owned by Dubai) buy up the ports and security and install their own terrorists (our president agrees with this. and it is proved by FR threads). Then they are going to smuggle all types of nuclear weapons (they do not possess) and other devious weapons they must possess into the ports by containers. Its a complicated plan because all containers from Dubai are inspected and the manifests noted by another incompetent US security force (they have both radiation and X-ray detection) before the containers leave Dubai.

You might ask then how can the attack occur. It's simple, once the ships leave the Dubai ports the terrorists will immediately kill all merchant seamen who are not terrorists. Although there are back ground checks on all merchant seamen by US security the terrorist merchant seamen will not be detected because American security is incompetent. Then the terrorists will unload the containers and throw the goods in the sea to make room. Allah will then provide, He will moon-drop all types of nuclear weapons (that don't yet exist) and unheard of weapons in the containers. Allah will then provide a cloaking device to shield the weapons. This is necessary because useless American security starts tracking ships as far as 30 hrs. out of port. Since all containers from the ME ports are checked by radiation and x-rays terrorists have to be careful. Useless American security often stops these ships 9 miles out of port with hand-held radiation detectors. and all the containers must go throught security at the port. The cloaking device will make the weapons go away and then they will reappear when the inspections are done. When the containers are far in the ports the cloaking device will be removed and America will be blown up. Simple. The US will then attack the UAE and be defeated by the 64,000 rented army of the UAE.

This is a good plan, Bush should have seen it but he is in the pockets of UAE. My granddad told me he had seen similar plans and they would have worked if implemented. I am not the only one that thinks this. I have two sources at Shady Pines (rest home for insane former Government employees) that agree with my facts. We must kill them first or we are doomed. Bush's attacks on terrorists is only a ploy to deceive us, he is in their pocket and will stand with them. Stop him before he kills us all.


216 posted on 03/01/2006 3:20:24 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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