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To: onyx
I want to hear from President Bush and have a full airing. More factual information is required.

This is the same spin that the Bushbots brought forth during the Harriet Miers fiasco. Say that you want to wait until all the information is out there, as if it isn't already. Say that you want a "full airing" when all you really want is for the rest of us to shut up until it's too late.

729 posted on 02/21/2006 1:50:34 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G

Were it not for the intense pressure re: the Meirs mess, she probably would have just floated through.

We did a service by pressuring the White House on Meirs.

These bots are just amazing. They want us to shut up and sit down and take the plunger right up the back side every time by GWB & Co.


782 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:09 PM PST by chris1
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To: Junior_G

You're an idiot. You do not have the facts, and I'll wager you have no clue as to the authority over the ports.

I don't give a damn if you rave endlessly on, just don't bother posting to me about your whining. Reading your posts is a total waste of my time, Junior.


786 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:46 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Junior_G; onyx

Those who wanted to wait for all the information in the Miers case were proven correct. The jump-the-gun crowd caused us no ends of trouble, and are still a source of comfort to the democrats who love to point out how the conservatives stabbed Miers in the back because they were afraid of her positions.

But Bush held firm. And eventually, we learned that she was NOT ready for the post -- after she answered her questionaire, and the committee sent it back with a failing grade. She then resigned because it was clear she wasn't ready, and it would have been the same whether or not people attacked her for no reason for things that weren't true.

Facts are useful, and you should wait for the facts. It is certainly true that if you simply chose a side without facts, you sometimes get it right -- but if you do, it's by pure dumb luck.

If there are any real FACTS which support your position on this issue, I feel confident that the facts will come out, will be persuasive, and the right decision will be made.

But it is clear now that the opponents are basing their opposition on fear, innuendo, bigotry, and ignorance of the facts.

I have yet to see an opponent make a substantial post in opposition without including at least one glaring mistatement of the facts (like "outsourcing security", or "UAE is a pro-terrorist country").

If we could get everybody educated on the facts, I believe there is a debate to be had, and I think there is a law that could be passed which would improve our security and give the President the power he needs to void the leases if REAL security issues come up. But we are nowhere near that point.


918 posted on 02/21/2006 2:18:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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