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To: JeffAtlanta; EternalVigilance; Czar
The administration already tried suck up to the Islamists a couple of weeks ago when the danish muslim cartoons came out. The state department went out of their way to come out against the notion of a free press in order not to offend the muslims.

This is an outright, unadulterated LIE.

They did no such thing. The State Department spokesman talked about how we have shed our BLOOD for the free press, and defended the right to print those cartoons.

Do not lie on this forum, no matter how out of control your emotions are.

1,920 posted on 02/21/2006 7:16:14 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: JeffAtlanta; EternalVigilance
MR. MCCORMACK: I haven't seen any -- first of all, this is matter of fact. I haven't seen it. I have seen a lot of protests. I've seen a great deal of distress expressed by Muslims across the globe. The Muslims around the world have expressed the fact that they are outraged and that they take great offense at the images that were printed in the Danish newspaper, as well as in other newspapers around the world.

Our response is to say that while we certainly don't agree with, support, or in some cases, we condemn the views that are aired in public that are published in media organizations around the world, we, at the same time, defend the right of those individuals to express their views. For us, freedom of expression is at the core of our democracy and it is something that we have shed blood and treasure around the world to defend and we will continue to do so. That said, there are other aspects to democracy, our democracy -- democracies around the world -- and that is to promote understanding, to promote respect for minority rights, to try to appreciate the differences that may exist among us.

We believe, for example in our country, that people from different religious backgrounds, ethnic backgrounds, national backgrounds add to our strength as a country. And it is important to recognize and appreciate those differences. And it is also important to protect the rights of individuals and the media to express a point of view concerning various subjects. So while we share the offense that Muslims have taken at these images, we at the same time vigorously defend the right of individuals to express points of view. We may -- like I said, we may not agree with those points of view, we may condemn those points of view but we respect and emphasize the importance that those individuals have the right to express those points of view. For example -- and on the particular cartoon that was published -- I know the Prime Minister of Denmark has talked about his, I know that the newspaper that originally printed it has apologized, so they have addressed this particular issue. So we would urge all parties to exercise the maximum degree of understanding, the maximum degree of tolerance when they talk about this issue. And we would urge dialogue, not violence. And that also those that might take offense at these images that have been published, when they see similar views or images that could be perceived as anti-Semitic or anti-Catholic, that they speak out with equal vigor against those images.

This is the complete statement, and Mr. McCormack clearly did NOT go out of his way to "come out against the notion of a free press."

There is no legitimate debate without truth, Jeff.

When you lie, you lose.

No matter how much disdain you have for this President, it behooves you to be honest in your discussions.

And EV, I am surprised at you for encouraging Jeff's dishonesty. I thought more of you than that.

1,958 posted on 02/21/2006 7:30:41 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
This is an outright, unadulterated LIE. They did no such thing.

Do you want me to post the spokesman's words?

1,998 posted on 02/21/2006 7:42:29 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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