Posted on 02/21/2006 12:32:20 PM PST by Brian Mosely
Whose economy did Rush say it would benefit? And in what way?
Bush's handlers want world government, it's that simple.
No I know THAT, and THAT IS WRONG
Are you telling me you have no problem with foreigners controlling our energy, our economy, and our security?
Frankly, it is about time that Americans did what is right for America, and not special deals that well benefit the Carlyle corporation
I just hope he hasn't forgotten these words from his 2004 SOTU Speech
Your slip is showing.
I suppose you think that all Catholics are Catholics are Catholics? Or Jews? Come on, don't embarrass yourself like that.
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Explain to us why this has to "be good" for you (or us pubbies)?
No. Do your own homework. Google is your friend.
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translation: I don't have a clue.
" The UAE is on our side on the war on terrorism. We need to keep them on our side."
As in "give us your port contracts or we'll start sending bombs over in shipping containers?"
Not terribly persuasive, given the circumstances.
"I have a grip. You keep your grip"
This is all very gripping.
"You have a point, but this is on our HOME SOIL. 9/11 changed everything. America should be run by Americans, NOT OTHER COUNTRIES!!!"
Amen brother! Like many others, while I'm not happy with Bush's UAE deal, I wasn't too happy that it was bought from a British concern. American ports need to be run by Americans.
Even if it was a good idea, the Bush Admin doesn't have the PR to sell it. And that's the bottom line.
Everyone who rushed to the defense of China when they tried to buy Unocal, raise your hand...
Wait all you want.
Now you lost me there. :) I think Alito was an excellent choice but you know how it goes, too many justices we think will vote with us on important cases often go the other way. With Alito I'm cautiously optimisitc that's not going to happen.
I am armed with facts. I'm also armed with guns. Looks like I'm going to need them since your hero is signing our ports over to an enemy. Dubai is not our ally. Anyone who believes that is a naive kool-aid drinking fool. I have a lot more confidence in the judgement of Hastert and Frist than I do in Bush.
I will agree with the second part of your equation.
I disagree strenuously with the first.
You are completely wrong about UAE being a "pro-terrorist" country. They are a country allied with us in the war on terror, and are the target of terrorist attacks because of their support for us.
Facts are useful. Try them. Here's more:
We aren't PAYING UAE anything. A company (DP World) owned by the UAE governemnt is PAYING stockholders of a company (O&P) 6.7 billion dollars for the company, after which they will own O&P which owns american companies which have leases on certain port facilities. At that time, some profits from operations will flow up to the DP World company, I presume enough to make it worth their 6.7 billion dollar investment.
And the leases have NOTHING to do with port security. The US companies handle port MANAGEMENT (like where do we store the containers, when are they loaded, when do the ships come and go, how do we fuel them, etc.).
Security is handled by government agencies, just like TSA handles security at airports (only hopefully better).
I don't think this has ANYTHING to do with Iran. Remember, the administration had nothing to do with this deal. This was a business transaction on the world marketplace between two foreign companies. We are only involved because the law requires the administration to make a security determination because of the leases held by subsidiaries of the company being sold.
I have already had to remind someone of the difference between Yemen and Dubai.
Yes, Yemen camels have two humps. But still, lots of sand. Hey, once we hit 1,000, I'm out.
Yeah, who cares what those stupid little American peons out there think anyway?
"Two foreign nations" whose companies operate under contractual terms with U.S. port agencies that are empowered under state laws will get laughed out of court if they try to make the case that these states have no legal standing in this case.
Anti-trust is a bitch.
Anti-trust has nothing to do with it. If anything, these companies have no legal recourse in the U.S. court system on anti-trust grounds. The reason the maritime shipping industry is dominated by huge conglomerates headquartered everywhere but the U.S. is that they operate under business arrangements (price-fixing within cartels, in particular) that had long been considered illegal under U.S. anti-trust laws.
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