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Bush will veto any bill to stop port deal
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Posted on 02/21/2006 12:32:20 PM PST by Brian Mosely

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To: abercrombie_guy_38
Thanks for proving my point.

You mean that point about you not knowing the difference between Dubai and Yemen? Damn, don't make it EASY for me!

781 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:08 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Junior_G

Were it not for the intense pressure re: the Meirs mess, she probably would have just floated through.

We did a service by pressuring the White House on Meirs.

These bots are just amazing. They want us to shut up and sit down and take the plunger right up the back side every time by GWB & Co.


782 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:09 PM PST by chris1
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To: Brian Mosely

He won't veto any spending bills, but he'll veto something that protects our port security. He's such a joke...


783 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:14 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Now is the time for all good customes agents in Tiajunna to come to the aid of their stuned beebers!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Sorry, I started the impeachment stuff, because if the opponents of this deal are so certain that Bush is selling out our security, he should be impeached.

Of course he shouldn't, but if you can't trust the President when he says he carefully analysed an issue and did what was best from a security standpoint, then he has to be removed. Because if he got this wrong after careful analysis, he can't be trusted with the military or anything else. And if he lied about being careful, he can't be trusted either.

I guess Bush upped the ante, although many here seemed to hope he would come out and say that he was ignorant about security, but now that the public pointed it out to him he agreed with them. Like that would be better.

I think this has become a defining issue. Either we have to come around to agreeing with Bush, or we have to remove him. Because he clearly thinks this is the right decision, and if he turns out to be clearly wrong he can't be trusted.

IF the republicans overrule Bush, the message will be that Bush cannot be trusted with security, and we will lose the next election. Because if we can't be trusted with security, why would anybody vote for us -- it certainly isn't because of our fiscal conservatism.....

And since the people against this have no rational basis for their fears, just muslim-bashing, arab fear, and trite statements about "terororist havens", I find their arguments unpersuasive.

But I'm always opened to a factual presentation. Sean just went through a bunch of pre-9/11 info, which I find meaningless -- I wouldn't trust our OWN COUNTRY to run this based on pre-9/11 information. the UAE is a lot different now.


784 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:26 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Alberta's Child

"And we should never let companies from the Middle East own flight schools in the U.S.,"

Exactly, and besides that, the total course would only focus on flying straight and turning. Not exactly a flight officer quality education.


785 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:36 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when")
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To: Junior_G

You're an idiot. You do not have the facts, and I'll wager you have no clue as to the authority over the ports.

I don't give a damn if you rave endlessly on, just don't bother posting to me about your whining. Reading your posts is a total waste of my time, Junior.


786 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:46 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Lazamataz
Well then! Send them our F22 Raptor plans!

They're probably in the short running to pick up our "surplus" F-117As (they're headed to the boneyard by 2008).

787 posted on 02/21/2006 1:58:51 PM PST by steveegg (Sen. Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy's vehicles have killed more people than V.P. Dick Cheney's guns)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

"But it looked good on paper."

Not to us "NAFTA-fatigued" Tarheels, it didn't. It took some serious arm-twisting and last-minute backroom dealing to get passage. It's going to cost Robin Hayes his career. She doesn't seem to realize it yet, but Sue Myrick's not going to be too terribly electable either.


788 posted on 02/21/2006 1:59:12 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Do you know who or what was actually the first to break and report this story, and their source?

The acquisition of P&O Ports by DPW was announced last fall. I found out about it from an article in The Journal of Commerce.

Anyone in the U.S. government who waited until February of 2006 to express their "concern" over this acquisition is nothing more than an opportunistic, pandering @sshole. And that goes for members of both political parties, too.

789 posted on 02/21/2006 1:59:21 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: EDINVA
"can anyone explain to me why this story has caused so much problem when no one seemed to give a damn when Carter gave away the Panama Canal and the Chinese Communists took over both ends of the Canal?"

History has chalked Carter up to a major mistake which was fortunately cured by Ronald Reagan only to be diminished by those that have followed, including the Bushs.
790 posted on 02/21/2006 1:59:23 PM PST by markedman (Islam means surrender, and I will NEVER surrender!)
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To: YOUGOTIT

At least they didn't sell it to the People's Republic of Massachusets.


791 posted on 02/21/2006 1:59:35 PM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: prairiebreeze

IMO .. we are taking one heck of a gamble with this port deal


792 posted on 02/21/2006 1:59:37 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: EDINVA
Because people don't understand that a chokehold on the Canal cuts our navy power in half -- they don't realize it's military strategic importance.
793 posted on 02/21/2006 1:59:53 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: feinswinesuksass
You have my respect for that admission. Others should follow.
794 posted on 02/21/2006 1:59:57 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: mariabush

Well it's going to be even easier now. Anyone who wants an Arab country linked terrorism, 9-11, and nuclear weapons proliferation acting as our port operators is out of their mind. Anyone who believes this is a good idea is either making money on the deal or brainwashed.


795 posted on 02/21/2006 2:00:00 PM PST by sangrila
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To: DBrow

Yes. Foreign companies do U.S. military contracts, using U.S. subsidiaries with US cleared employees.


796 posted on 02/21/2006 2:00:11 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Brian Mosely


Why is Bush so hell bent on this? I don't get it. Is there some underlying thing going on here that we don't know about???? IMO, this is a HUGE mistake.


797 posted on 02/21/2006 2:00:15 PM PST by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: cripplecreek
Did you ever get the impression that the republicans and democrats are just handing control back and forth in a game of keep away. (meaning keep the power away from the people)

Yes, and I've got more than just an impression of that now.

798 posted on 02/21/2006 2:00:16 PM PST by steveegg (Sen. Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy's vehicles have killed more people than V.P. Dick Cheney's guns)
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To: finnman69; sasafras
Rush was defending the port deal, Hannity is opposed.

There goes that Bushbot fantasy.

799 posted on 02/21/2006 2:00:19 PM PST by TankerKC (Pull your head out.)
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To: FReepaholic

9/11 changed everything. American ports should be managed by American companies


800 posted on 02/21/2006 2:00:38 PM PST by John999
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