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To: atlaw

"(3) presumes without a whit of evidence that scientists working on the issue are doing so in bad faith,"


Actually, I have first hand evidence in that during my PhD studies in the late 80’s and working with DoD and NASA on a variety of space programs we kept hearing what a cash cow
"global warming" was going to be in the coming years. I talked with one researcher after another who was cashing in the scheme. We all knew it was a liberal BS push to attack petroleum, chemical, and human population issues. Hell, even the public knew it, but repeating that lie seems to have had it affect. People like you now believe it to be absolutely true. In the 80’s I worked with the DMSP program, which measures energy around the planet 24 x 7. When the first global warming alarms were raised, along with the conclusion that man should stop polluting the earth, stop driving cars, and a whole host of other liberal agenda items, the DMSP group was laughing its ass off. They had several decades of real scientific evidence that not a single shred of this “evidence” of global warming was true.

“Global Warming” is just another liberal eco-terrorist attack on humans.


691 posted on 02/14/2006 8:44:31 AM PST by CodeToad
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Cash cow, indeed. I found your post interesting because I'm starting to hear about it (the chant for Global Warming funding) from the same kind of crowd formerly associated with NASA--(afraid I can't be any more specific than that)--there are some has-beens and some grant-grubbers who think Global Warming may be their ticket back to the limelight.

It's not just money (although it is money) --there's that ego thing going that you often find with retired, out-of-work, untenured or otherwise marginalized "scientists"--

692 posted on 02/14/2006 8:50:21 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: CodeToad
"I have first hand evidence in that during my PhD studies in the late 80’s and working with DoD and NASA on a variety of space programs we kept hearing what a cash cow "global warming" was going to be in the coming years."

This from the same person who wrote "Every article I have read is based on silly conclusions like 'Gee, it's hot here in Miami...'" Why am I skeptical?

You also say that "In the 80’s I worked with the DMSP program, which measures energy around the planet 24 x 7. When the first global warming alarms were raised, along with the conclusion that man should stop polluting the earth, stop driving cars, and a whole host of other liberal agenda items, the DMSP group was laughing its ass off."

Really. And you did what while "working with the DMSP program"? Monitor all those articles about how hot it was in Miami?

And I suppose the F8, launched in 1987, was just a punchline for all those laughing guys who now use it to monitor such ridiculously improbable events as depletion and accretion trends in arctic sea ice.

Somehow, your sudden acquisition of "inside" knowledge about the evil motivations and inherent ill-will of the scientific community is less than convincing. If, improbably, you ever were a part of the DMSP program (whose participants, btw, are well known and have been since declassification in 1972), I'm willing to bet you were discarded pretty quickly. There's not much room there for snotty pre-judgment of data and derision of data-collection.

722 posted on 02/14/2006 11:03:04 AM PST by atlaw
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