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To: Dimensio
"Origin of the Species" is the title of Charles Darwin's book.

Origin means how something originates.

Meaning how something comes to be.

Meaning how it all started.

Meaning Evolution has to do with how things began.

Meaning Evolution bumps up against God as Prime Mover, God as Creator or even God as Personal Intercessor.

Meaning Evolution makes an inherent claim against a Designer of the Universe by asserting that man evolved from conscienceless single cell life forms.

This is a "claim" or "argument" against there being a good Creator God who designed the universe -- of which Man with a conscience and soul is the centerpiece. It is the inherent assertion of the Origin of the Species that God does not exist. And Darwin didn't need to mention God for this claim to be made. He just needed to construct a scientific sounding argument that man evolved from simple life forms. And I mean "scientific sounding" for the year 1859.
653 posted on 02/14/2006 1:02:25 AM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Dimensio; Havoc

That's why I stated that:

until Evolutionists create something out of nothing, they can talk all they want.

In order to deconstruct a perceived faulty argument, one must be able to construct a better one.

Evolutionists have not been able to design or create or prove anything about their theory EXCEPT that it exists to trample Christian belief in a personal good Creator.

And in that sense, the band of Evolutionist brothers is a strong fraternity. Bully for them; I've got a life to live for a good and creative God who loves to give His good gifts to men.

The Evolutionist fraternity can snuggle up to their missing links at night, I guess.


654 posted on 02/14/2006 1:17:03 AM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Californiajones
"Origin of the Species" is the title of Charles Darwin's book.

No, it's actually not. But let's not get stuck on details!

Origin means how something originates. Meaning how something comes to be. Meaning how it all started. Meaning Evolution has to do with how things began. Meaning Evolution bumps up against God as Prime Mover, God as Creator or even God as Personal Intercessor.

I saw a book subtitled "The Origins Of The Internet."

Origin means how something originates. Meaning how something comes to be. Meaning how it all started. Meaning computer science has to do with how things began. Meaning computer science bumps up against God. Meaning computer science is a satanistic religion which claims that God had nothing to do with the beginning of the universe and all energy contained therein.

You may have just invented the most amusing form of terrible argument ever.
656 posted on 02/14/2006 1:27:41 AM PST by aNYCguy
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To: Californiajones

""Origin of the Species" is the title of Charles Darwin's book."

No, it isn't. :)

" Origin means how something originates.

Meaning how something comes to be.

Meaning how it all started.

Meaning Evolution has to do with how things began."

Nope. It's not about the origins of life. It specifically says there is no answer to that question. If you had actually READ the book, you would know this. Next you want to trash a book, actually reading it might help. :)

" Meaning Evolution bumps up against God as Prime Mover, God as Creator or even God as Personal Intercessor.

Meaning Evolution makes an inherent claim against a Designer of the Universe by asserting that man evolved from conscienceless single cell life forms."

Evolution has absolutely nothing to say about whether a God exists. Nor does any other scientific theory.

" It is the inherent assertion of the Origin of the Species that God does not exist. "

Again, read the book next time and get back to us. :)


665 posted on 02/14/2006 5:05:18 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Californiajones
Origin means how something originates.

Yes. In the case of Darwin's theory, it's on how "species" originate.

Meaning how something comes to be.

Yes, how "species" came to be, as opposed to a single uniform type of life on Earth.

Meaning how it all started.

No, not how it "all" started, just species.

Meaning Evolution bumps up against God as Prime Mover, God as Creator or even God as Personal Intercessor.

Wrong. You've focused on a single word in the title and totally ignored every other word. This is fundamentally dishonest. Yes, Darwin's theory discusses an "origin", but it's not the "origin" of everything, it's just the origin of species.

Meaning Evolution makes an inherent claim against a Designer of the Universe by asserting that man evolved from conscienceless single cell life forms.

Please explain how stating that humans descended from single-celled life forms makes a claim against a "Designer of the Universe". The universe existed long before single-celled life forms. How does making a statement about single-celled life forms equate to claiming that the universe itself has no "Designer"? Be specific.

This is a "claim" or "argument" against there being a good Creator God who designed the universe -- of which Man with a conscience and soul is the centerpiece.

Non-sequitur. You are reading things into the theory of evolution that are simply not there.

It is the inherent assertion of the Origin of the Species that God does not exist

No it is not. The second printing of Origin of the Species specifically mentioned a Creator as the possible source for the first life forms. You are lying.
743 posted on 02/14/2006 11:34:24 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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