Ichneumon: This is your brain on creationism.Findings: Reader make your own. And please use your common sense!Havoc: No, this is your brain on common sense.
King Prout: [Derisional deconstructionism of "common sense"] ... Often enough, "common sense" is actually rather stupid. [a litany of derisional examples most of which are at best 'silly'] ... Shall I continue -as I could, at great length- or will you cede the point that calling a notion "common sense" does not amount to a compelling argument in its favor?
bvw: So you say there is no such thing as common sense? Or is your example a case study of how words and terminology that have valid meaning in context can be usurped and distorted?
King Prout: as should have been clear before you asked: yes, there are concepts and notions which can be and are referred to as "common sense" - and these concepts and notions, when extended beyond the most mundane situations (good common sense: Don't stick your hand in a fire - odds are you'll get burned), are often quite erroneous (example of incorrect but REAL common sense
common sense, lacking a distinct definition, has the *operational* definition of "things which are held to be true because a large number of people believe it or find it to be self-evident"
the list of idiocies and atrocities falling under that particular shadow would require gigabytes to delineate... just the list, not the description of the beliefs.
relying on "common sense" as a weapon with which to assault empirical science is... folly.
I note, in passing, that you have staunchly avoided even attempting to rebut my specific examples of "common sense" being folly. And, yet, you simultaneously refuse to cede the point that "common sense", as a result of its rather blemished history and performance, MUST be considered a specious argument when tendered without solid empirical support.
LOL. If they don't like the intrusion of common sense, they redefine it. If they don't like the intrusion of reality, they redefine it. If something makes their theory and by extension - them - look like moronic babblings of an insane psychopath, they cut it loose - thus the attempt to hack macroevolution free. They've actually gone to the extreme of trying to push microevolution as a long term mechanism that sidesteps macro altogether.. bwahahahahahahahahahaha