Well, since no-one is claiming that anyone went knowingly to their deaths for a lie, you need to put up an argument against a position that I am actually taking up, as opposed to some imaginary position that you find it easy to argue against. I've lost count of the number of times that I've pointed out that your position on that issue is a false dichotomy.
I am amazed that for all the big talk about science, there is not one prooftext or formula or mathematical equation posted here to describe the CHEMICAL process of evolution. For that is what it must be.
Science is not required to avoid amazing you. Evolution cannot be described with chemical formulae (though some evolutionary processes can be, it doesn't make sense to think of evolution itself at that level, any more than it makes sense to discuss quantum mechanics or chemical formulae when considering the process of plant growth. Quantum mechanics is involved at a detailed level in both phenomena too, but it isn't a useful level of description either)
It is true, I don't think much, if at all, about evolution. The only time I have ever given it much thought is when C.S. Lewis mused upon it in one of his essays about art and culture, and compared it to a grand idea that shows some of man's inherent majesty -- to believe in such a vaulted lie -- a majesty the betrays his spiritual nature, but a majestic lie of evolution nonetheless.
That'll be C S Lewis the great biologist will it? Oh, wait, he never studied biology at all. No doubt you are happy to know that Lewis considered Genesis to be a folk tale, not a true story.
I remember deconstructing Spielberg's E.T. for its Jungian/Campbellian roots and recalling C.S. Lewis's lines about the counterfeit grandeur of evolution when thinking about that counterfeit Christ in the main character of E.T. But, that's about it. Who cares? No missing link. No half man/half whatever. Ever. It's complete bunk and a salve for people against the truth of their own sin and need for a savior against our own propensity to do wrong. For example, even as a child, I remember trying to keep the ten commandments for one day and was astonished that I broke one of them.
Content-free bullshit, both in its science and its ludicrous cod-psychology.
You try it. Then tell me if you need a savior. No man is sinless and this is the problem of the whole world.
I am quite sure that I am sinful. However since I believe in neither heaven, God, or hell a saviour is merely wishful thinking. I do try to avoid lying though.
As for evolution and Christians who claim that they believe in it, evolution does nothing for us in the moral quandaries and crisis-es of the day except give us a convenient excuse that we are really animals and all this moral stuff is just societal add ons.
Complete bullshit. I have never met anyone who excuses their bad behaviour on the grounds that they are descended from animals. That is just a nonsense position that those who feel that their religion is threatened by evolution make up and repeat quite frequently on FR.
Since apparently the only thing stopping you from behaving badly is your faith I suggest that you notify the police of your flakiness, in case you ever get a crisis of faith and start disobeying the commandments.
If my boredom with evolution has raised your scorn -- tough.
WRONG! What raises my scorn is your repeated willingness to make an ass of yourself by talking about things that you plainly don't understand at all.
No one has offered any prooftext or chemical description of what you all are hanging your hats on -- so be as scornful as you like. Augustine, would not have joined you, he would have been too busy listening to the Spirit who told him to "Pick up and read" and would've blown off evothink for the pagan avatarist lie that it is.
Spittle-filled rant noted. Have you read the relevant Augustine quote? It could have been written yesterday by any of the majority of Christian Scholars who accept evolution. Even in the 5th Century AD devout Christian Scholars like Augustine could see that Genesis is not literally true in its simplest interpretation.
I'm still waiting for you to show an iota of shame for making stuff up about the transparency of gold, or talking nonsense about Columbus, or revisionist translations of the word "circle" in Isaiah. I guess that being a bible-bashing "saved" person means you never have to say sorry for spreading misinformation, or repeating the lies of others. A free pass for repeating as much dishonesty as you like with no need to apologise to anyone when caught in the act; what a great religion you have.