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To: b_sharp

I'm not saying that at all, though I would offer that if it were an actual Christian foundation, it couldn't but help in some fashion. The nature of Christians, whether they accomplish it or not, is to attempt to be perfect in their morality. When you can rely on that being the case, you can generally rely upon results. But I would underscore Christian, not an "ism". Ism's are philosophical groups using Christianity by and large. As such, I can't speak for them.

The argument I've made is simple, read your history. Christians founded the branches and are responsible for their existance and much of the major discoveries. So trying to say Christians would destroy science is about the most moronic thing you could proffer.

As for the methodology, I would almost agree. Methodology is only as good as the morality putting it to use. If you have someone affecting methodology that has no moral compunction about say, oh, lying or deception... obviously, precision really becomes a moot point. So, there is something to be said for highly moral, upstanding and trustworthy people being in any position, scientific fields are no exception. But you're off on a tangent I never went to.

I merely rebutted the assanine notion that Christianity is out to destroy science. It just doesn't pass the sniff test or the bs-ometer and sounds like stark-raving lunacy no different than the liberal lunacy going on amongst dim circles right now. "The religious right will get you.."
Boo.


2,126 posted on 02/18/2006 4:15:27 AM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc
"I'm not saying that at all, though I would offer that if it were an actual Christian foundation, it couldn't but help in some fashion. The nature of Christians, whether they accomplish it or not, is to attempt to be perfect in their morality. When you can rely on that being the case, you can generally rely upon results.

So far the results from "Christian" science all resemble Kent Hovinds mindless meanderings.

"But I would underscore Christian, not an "ism". Ism's are philosophical groups using Christianity by and large. As such, I can't speak for them.

"The argument I've made is simple, read your history. Christians founded the branches and are responsible for their existance and much of the major discoveries. So trying to say Christians would destroy science is about the most moronic thing you could proffer.

OK, some of the men that founded the modern branches of science were Christian. Got it. Many Christians do practice science and indeed do not harm science... unless they allow their religious bias to affect their conclusions. Some go so far as to manipulate the accepted laws of physics to prove the Bible correct. There is a difference between Christian Scientists (cough cough) and Scientists who are Christian. The former look to make science fit the Bible, the latter look to accept the findings of science and adapt their understanding of the Bible.

"As for the methodology, I would almost agree. Methodology is only as good as the morality putting it to use. If you have someone affecting methodology that has no moral compunction about say, oh, lying or deception... obviously, precision really becomes a moot point. So, there is something to be said for highly moral, upstanding and trustworthy people being in any position, scientific fields are no exception. But you're off on a tangent I never went to.

I don't remember this particular tangent but as old as I am, well...

Science is self correcting. Because research is available for all to inspect even those determined to make their mark by lying and fudging figures are unable to hide their dishonesty for very long.

"I merely rebutted the assanine notion that Christianity is out to destroy science. It just doesn't pass the sniff test or the bs-ometer and sounds like stark-raving lunacy no different than the liberal lunacy going on amongst dim circles right now. "The religious right will get you.." Boo.

Those Christians that insist on modifying the methodology of science to include the supernatural will indeed affect scientific study. Those that understand the reasons for the current methodology have no reason to change it.

2,158 posted on 02/18/2006 4:58:04 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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