[js1138]

Being fair, the fine tuners and special creationists are not necessarily the same people.

My point is to make sure the creationists are aware that "scientific" ID presents a history of the universe that is indistinguishable from mainstream science.

When the typical ID supporter says he wants evolution criticized, he is not thinking of teaching the anthropic principle. He is hoping that someone will speak against common descent.

But the current crop of IDers does not oppose common descent.

[ml1954]

But the current crop of IDers does not oppose common descent.

The sophisticated ones, that is. That leaves out all I remember encountering on FR to date...not to say there haven't been some.