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To: Californiajones
"And I'm all for scientific processes. Also love Socratic methodology. I'm just saying that EvoThink does not hold up until an Evo can demonstrate/recreate its purported processes. (the kink in EvoThinking seems to be that "over a serious amount of time, things can spontaneously create themselves" so Evos are loathe to commit to any quick demonstration.)

I shall assume you have fallen for the creationist red-herring of micro/macro evolution and are referring exclusively to macro-evolution.

Although many creationists resort to the 'macro-evolution can not be observed' canard it is simply a tactic to redirect your attention from the many lines of evidence science in general uses when developing theories. Specifically in evolution we have tell-tale markers in the DNA of extant species that links them genetically in very much the same patterns that the morphological evidence used to compile the phylogenic 'tree of life' produces.

Science does not need 'direct' observation to reach a high level of confidence in the accuracy of conclusions, indirect observation can frequently produce more than just a little convincing evidence. In fact one of the most important developments of the last 100 years - Quantum Physics (and all its parts) - is built on nothing but indirect observation.

There are many mechanisms in evolution that produce change in a species that would continue 'ad infinitum' restricted solely by the constraints imposed by the physical limits of a given environment (eg. aquatic organisms can grow larger than terrestrial organisms). For this change to not result in 'macro-evolution' a verified counter mechanism would have to be proposed. This mechanism has not been produced by the anti-evolutionists.

"And I'm saying that these purported evolutionary processes would naturally relate to the process of creating something out of nothing, i.e. creation itself.

The link between the origin of the universe and the observed variance in earthly biota is tenuous at best. It would be very easy to suppose that a God created the universe in such a way that abiogenesis would occur on at least one planet. Evolutionary processes do not rely on a specific cosmology and are independent of the origin of life. One can explore the creation of a garment without knowledge of the origin of the fabric.

1,664 posted on 02/16/2006 5:39:49 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: b_sharp

And what is the scientific formula for evolution again?

Got to be explained in mathematical terms for it to be "science".


2,259 posted on 02/23/2006 1:16:07 AM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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