[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

By saying *your Extramarital Fornication* you are making a claim I do those things. Try and slither out of it like a Clinton if you must, but we all know what you said and what you meant.

I *meant* that -- in trying to lecture me on being "UnChristian" -- you have about as much knowledge of my "transgressions" against Orthodox Presbyterianism, as I have knowledge regarding your personal life.

It was an illustration -- not of a claim, but of our mutual lacking for any claim.

On the other hand, if you want to believe that I was claiming to have followed you around taking snapshots of your nocturnal activities -- well, believe what you like. If you don't get my point -- whatever, it's a free country (shrug).

The issue of whether government schools should be abolished (they should) is moot because IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN any time soon. Most people will be educated in government schools for decades at least. As someone who cares about the scientific literacy of this country, it is a moral treason to lie to children and say that evolution isn't the best scientific theory about the diversity of life we have.

Sorry. I'm unwilling to debate Policy, without addressing the underlying Philosophy thereof.

It is both short-sightedness and intellectual cowardice to wrangle about what is, without considering what ought.

"To compel a [Creationist] to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. -- Thomas Jefferson, Edited.

True, or False?

[PatrickHenry]

I have a question. Earlier you said there was a Supreme Court case holding that atheism is a religion. Do you have a name for that case? I'd like to read it. I don't want to read what some creationist website has to say; I want to read the actual court opinion. So I'd appreciate the name. Thanks.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"I *meant* that -- in trying to lecture me on being "UnChristian" -- you have about as much knowledge of my "transgressions" against Orthodox Presbyterianism, as I have knowledge regarding your personal life."

What ever you say Slick Willie!

"Sorry. I'm unwilling to debate Policy, without addressing the underlying Philosophy thereof."

The policy you want (abolition of government schools) isn't going to happen any time soon. It's hard enough getting vouchers passed. The reality is that government schools are going to be here for a while, like it or not (I don't like it). If that is true, then science education is going to be a part of that education. Removing all things in science that may offend someone's religious convictions is completely impractical. YEC goes against not just the mainstream of biology, but of geology, and cosmology, astronomy, and particle physics. We'll wind up with an even more scientifically illiterate population than we already have, and that's saying a lot.

Seeing that you have no SCIENTIFIC arguments against these claims, your attempts to destroy scientific education in this country is all the more appalling.