Indeed.
Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Corn is corn, bub. If you want to play semantics games, that's your problem - normal human beings know what corn is even if you don't.
Was it by any chance because they were a bunch of creationist liars, under solemn oath, and at least one of them tried to blame their lying on their drug habit? A little detail like that, maybe.
There are a number of kinds of corn; but, whether there are multiple species is something else altogether. There are differences between dogs, they are all dogs. You get differences in corn and want multiple species.. We care.
Corn turning into corn isn't speciation. Corn growing wings or a mouth might be. Absurd examples; but, suitable. Go for it sparky.
Speciation is defined as the process through which two populations change genetically became incapable of interbreeding. I have no idea what your brain-dead idea of speciation is, but that's how biologists define speciation, and biologists' definition, unlike yours, carries some weight. Of course, you can claim to know better, but you're deranged, so who cares?
Now go back to huffing gasoline fumes.
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!
"Don't Feed the Troll"
When it results in a strong degree of genetic isolation, as described in the article you failed to understand.
The fact that it is still "corn" is no more relevant than the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of distinct species of beetles, of wildly different types and lifestyles, produced by "beetles producing beetles". Speciation is the production of new species, only a moron insists that *has* to jump entire higher taxa or it doesn't "count"...
Try to learn some science before you attempt to critique it, you're just making a complete fool of yourself.
I suggest you go to England and ask them what corn is, ignoramus.
That's, what, the third, fourth or fifth time you've offered that to no avail. Meaningless. Sorry. The poll numbers speak for themselves. If your only defense for evolution is that you think ID isn't gaining ground.. you got more problems than you're aware of. Seek help.
Yeah, but when you've enlarged those cerebral ventricles through repeated hydrocarbon inhalaltion, who knows?
There is no way of misrepresenting what you said. Corn turned into Corn - speciation has thus ocurred. That is the argument boiled down to it's simplest. Amazing how it sounds more important with all the techno babble attached and it's drawn out to book length.. when you boil it down to the basic truth, corn turned into corn and you somehow want us to believe that's macro-evolution.
Stand in it long enough, you can't smell it...
Wheat, Barley, Maize, Oats, etc.
Trying to have a rational conversation with anti-evolutionists often feels like taking a trip through the bizarre world of Wonderland..."...and that shows that there are three hundred and sixty-four days when you get un-birthday presents -- -"
"Certainly," said Alice.
"And only one for birthday presents, you know, There's glory for you!"
"I don't know what you mean by 'glory,' "Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'"
"But `glory' doesn't mean `a nice knock-down argument,'" Alice objected.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master -- that's all."
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again.
"They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs, they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"
"Would you tell me, please," said Alice, "what that means?"
"Now you talk like a reasonable child," said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. "I meant by "impenetrability' that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you meant to do next, as I suppose you don't intend to stop here all the rest of your life."
"That's a great deal to make one word mean," Alice said in a thoughtful tone.
"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty, "I always pay it extra."
-- excerpt from "Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There", by Lewis Carroll
Here's a picture. Side by side.
http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitdna/crops02.jsp
Indeed.
That's why I said "normal".
Proverbs 29:9: "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet."
A word to the wise, ml1954...
Evolutionists can't comprehend that people look at corn, see corn and when it changes and is still corn, recognize that the only thing that changed was .. er.. nothing. LOL. But you go ahead now and whimper.
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