Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry
ROFL! You're in your own special little world, aren't you? The one where evolutionary biology and nuclear physics are crumbling, while the belief in an Earth no more than 6000 years old, where humans lived alongside dinosaurs, where mammoths are "flash-frozen" by floods and isotopic decay rates are merely "assumptions" and analytical methods are just "sideshow tricks" is winning, eh?
You amuse me.
But tell me honestly -- do even you believe your own spin?
more to the point: facts are unaffected by their popularity
What specific objections do you have to the theory of evolution?
Great! Did you know, by the way, that he was an operative of Darwin Central?
I don't seem to be the one in need of a reassuring lecture about what common sense is. You guys are losing the battle and think you aren't getting your message out though most of America knows it and rejects it. You can't get your heads around that and insist they just don't understand when in fact they do and reject your ideology because of it rather than inspite of it. Rationalize away if it helps you cope. You'll still be losing ground and I'll still be laughing about it in the face of years of condescention, mouthyness and abuse from your ilk. The day we all start acting like you guys and fight back you think the world is ending. Welcome to reality.
To make you wonder about it - that's why he's a wonder chimp
No special world needed here. Most Americans reject Evolution. You can try to spin that all you want. You guys are the ones whining about not getting your message out. Ya'll are the ones terrified about the dangers of Ken Ham and Dr. Dino - what a hoot. I'm glad you're amused. Hope your sense of humor stays intact - you're gonna need it.
Facts are unaffected by their popularity. I would agree. Evolution wishes it had some so they could gain some popularity based on facts. As of now, they're still trying desperately to convince people they have transition fossils in absense of having any. They've had to redefine what a transition is in order to try and sell the idea and it didn't sell. Apparently demand was high and supply was so low that by the time they got the knockoffs on the shelves nobody wanted them anymore. Seems filed down skulls and plaster replicas don't do anyone any good.
Also would seem that countless billions of experiments in farming on a yearly basis have largely solidified a fact that is noteworthy. Planting billions of kernels of corn will always produce ------- CORN. Amazing isn't it. Not green beans, oranges, apples, tomatoes or orangutans.. just corn. Proving that by billions of tests every year for hundreds of years in which corn might have produced a dolphin, it just doesn't happen. Facts are unaffected by popularity. A seed will only ever produce what it itself is intended to produce. You plant corn, you grow corn if anything sprouts from the seed at all. It's so well tested that it's relied upon as a law of nature by every farmer out there trying to make a living by growing anything. They don't plant soybeans hoping like heck that soybeans will grow. They plant them knowing what they will get so long as the weather holds and the harvest is good.. lots of soybeans.
Perhaps all you evo nuts could try peer pressure and stand by the fields guilting the seeds into wanting to be something else?
Specific objections? I think all of it is a good place to start. There is almost nothing about evolution that stands up. Thusly it has to rely upon obfuscation such as macro vs. micro to sell itself. It has to rely on lies in textbooks to sell it to schools which I understand despite claims that this has been addressed is still ongoing.
The theory itself defies logic in that what we observe annually with crops around the world provides a world wide laboratory in the zillions of seeds that could in one year provide sound basis for denying the possibility of any change from what is planted to something new. The facts belie the theory. As I noted in my prior post, It is so well known and expected by farmers that seed will only bring forth after it's kind that it's banked on. Corn produces corn. And they know when they plant it that is exactly what they will get and nothing else. The same is true with green beans, pairs, potatoes, you name it. When we plant it, we know what will come out of the ground by the millions of acres every year. It's so well tested it's fullproof.
Yet we're to believe that corn somehow might produce a stork tomorrow. And of course I'm being fecetious to embarrass you and illustrate the point. If you went and told a farmer you wanted to watch his crop grow to see if you could get a panda to pop out of the ground he'd laugh you off his property as soon as he would hearing you say you wanted to see if greenbeans would pop up out of his orchard off his peach treas. It's absurd because we know it cannot happen and will not happen. You would blanche and say pandas wouldn't pop out of the ground. I would respond "how do you know if you've never witnessed speciation?" You can't argue the conditions if you've never witnessed it. You can argue what you think might happen; but, if it's never been witnessed, your blanching is just plain nonsense. In absence of any witnessed event, anything must then be possible or it's not at all.
I've been through this before with others. Evolution isn't directed. It isn't a thinking entity that knows where it's going or that knows what will embarrass you. It doesn't know that Whales shouldn't pop out of the ground when you plant a potatoe. Evolution is a moron and given totally to random chance. If you told it to put on a shoe, it might tap it's head instead, assuming it could find it. Evolution, being a non-sentient thing has no idea what it's doing, it just does it. I'm taking all this from the notion that it works at all which I don't believe for a minute.
Yes I've been knowingly absurd, as I noted, to make the point in no way unclear. Evolution has never been witnessed, is not observable, isn't possible based on farming alone and will never see anything produce other than it's own kind no matter how many zillions of times it's tested. Corn, peanuts, pick your food. It all proves evolution wrong by the Billions and billions of counted on, harvested and eaten morsel every day. Every day. Not once in a blue moon. It may have been harvested seasonally; but we count on it every day and without fail know we can rely on it to be the case. Were evolution even possibile, one time in all those zillions, we should have had our expectations ruined. But I'm sure fate conspired against you and the odds and some farmer hacked the plant from the ground and tossed it aside knowing he'd be world famous for proving evolution, yet it's never happened.
What specific objections? All of it. Including calling it science. It isn't. It's a blind ideology with no observeable proof.. not one iota. There's plenty of evidence out there in the world. When Evolutionists produce something other than spin, an eyebrow will go up. It has yet to happen.
Yet we're to believe that corn somehow might produce a stork tomorrow.
And you expect to be taken seriously?
Read what I said. I noted specifically that I'm being fecetions; but, let's say for argument's sake that I'm not. Why should that bother you. As I noted, you've never seen speciation happen. How do you know what form it would take.
You can guess, impose your intuition on it, draw pretty pictures of what you'd like to see; but, if you've never seen it, you can hardly play the expert on it and tell us what it will or will not look like. The question you're asking is one I'd ask of you. You sell us a concept that you've never seen - ever. Nobody has. And when your own theory embarrasses you, you expect us to take you seriously. You guys may be an expert on how you'd like us to believe it happens; but, assuming it happens at all (which i do not) it's very nature defies you telling it or us what it can or cannot do until you've seen it even once.
At one time on this planet there were exactly two experts in the world on the matter of flight. They were experts because they did it and perfected it.. not because they theorized endlessly about what it might look like. Thousands of others did that with their miserable failures documented endlessly.. which I might suggest is quite similar to the history of evolution - endless documented failure. But, do tell us about how we should take you seriously, experts.. *chortle*
No, I don't think so.
Guess that's just your problem then, huh.
"So, you have devolved to name calling when you disagree with someone?"
Darwin was an agnostic in 1859, whether you believe it or not. :)
Guess that's just your problem then, huh.
Or maybe I recognize when someone is saying what they really think but doesn't have the courage to come right out and say it without equivocating.
I think my statements make plain what I think - very plain without having to hide it. I've no need to hide anything.
My points are in no way unclear:
-it's absurd.
-many of you are embarrassed by it.
-you've never witnessed it nor have i nor will we ever.
-the known everyday zillions of acres of food planted tell us it's impossible because cord always grows corn.
-You've no proof and to the extent that proof exists it hurts your case rather than helps it - see the corn.
-People who have never seen it happen once pretend to be experts on something never witnessed, then want to tell us how it can and cannot happen though not having ever witnessed it, that would be a leap of faith rather than a matter of expertise.
-etc...
Given all that, I guess it must really irk you that 42 isn't the answer I could have given and didn't. No fish for you.
Ok, got a great idea for a cartoon.
Frame one, Opus looks at hodge as hodge peers through an open bedroom door at a sobbing man.
Opus: What's wrong with him?
Hodge: Gone nuts.
--
frame 2
Opus looking at the man. leveled field clear through room window.
Opus: Nuts?
Hodge: Mowed his corn down - 300 acres. Wife is out trying to save what she can..
--
Frame 3
Opus - puzzled.
Opus: mowed it down?
Hodge: Yep, didn't get what he wanted.
--
Frame 4
Opus looking out at corn through rear window, hodge standing next to the man still shaking his head.
Opus: what did he plant?
Hodge: Corn.
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Frame 5
Opus pushes Hodge out of the room
Opus: Out, out, out!
Hodge: what? You goin nuts too?
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Frame 6
Opus hangs sign on door, places hand on hodge's shoulder
Opus: Robert Frost.. evil eye.. get it.
Hodge: Got it.
--
Frame 7
zoom in on sign.
sign: Do not disturb: Evolutionist coming to grips.
Already being inked and copywritten. Thank you. lol
It is a belief system. Valid obseravtions, but to infer to totality from a limited set -- that's religion.
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