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Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
you can't have Predators without Prey.

Is that another law? Have you then abandoned 'omne vivum e vivo'?

1,861 posted on 02/17/2006 10:56:09 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; zeeba neighba; RnMomof7; HarleyD
Science is not capable of examining the question of whether or not there is a God.

LOL. And yet they do it all the time.

It's the oldest lie there is -- that something living can be born out of something dead by the inherent physical properties of the thing itself and by other inert materials acting upon it.

Alchemy.

No God required.

1,862 posted on 02/17/2006 10:56:12 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Right Wing Professor
This from someone who routinely packs insults into his posts. You don't offend me, but only because I consider you a lunatic.

Did I even ping you to my #1853?

I don't remember even asking whether or not I offended you...
...but, if you'd like to share your opinion -- um, okay. So noted.

1,863 posted on 02/17/2006 10:56:30 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty - Luke 17:10)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"LOL. And yet they do it all the time."

No, they don't.

"It's the oldest lie there is -- that something living can be born out of something dead by the inherent physical properties of the thing itself and by other inert materials acting upon it."

LOL Whatever you say, God.


1,864 posted on 02/17/2006 10:58:44 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Viruses are incapable of living and reproducing outside the host cell

By the way, this is no longer true. Cell-free systems have been developed that allow viruses to replicate.

1,865 posted on 02/17/2006 10:58:52 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
It's not up to the level of a theory yet, though it has made testable claims and is a working hypothesis. Your claim that it will never be possible to know the initial conditions is based on... what?

It is based on the fact that no evidence of any prebiotic soup has ever been found and that it is now improbable that it will ever be found. No soup for you so to speak.

Now tell me how you're hypothesis that life on Earth arose chemically from natural sources can be falsified.

1,866 posted on 02/17/2006 11:00:13 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

You're welcome. Of course, your mental instability only partially mitigates your appalling behavior.


1,867 posted on 02/17/2006 11:00:26 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

LOL.

(your turn)


1,868 posted on 02/17/2006 11:02:04 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: xzins
By posting this, are you saying that you accept the resurrection of the dead?

No, St Augustine was addressing Christians like you, not infidels like me. Does his message have no resonance with you?

1,869 posted on 02/17/2006 11:02:46 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Cell-free systems have been developed that allow viruses to replicate.

Nice engineering.

1,870 posted on 02/17/2006 11:02:56 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Right Wing Professor

Unstable placemarker.


1,871 posted on 02/17/2006 11:03:33 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: jwalsh07
"It is based on the fact that no evidence of any prebiotic soup has ever been found and that it is now improbable that it will ever be found. No soup for you so to speak."

The initial conditions of the earth ARE knowable. Sorry, you're just flat wrong.

"Now tell me how you're hypothesis that life on Earth arose chemically from natural sources can be falsified."

Find that the Earth conditions were not suitable to the formation of life.
1,872 posted on 02/17/2006 11:05:03 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
BTW, you don't seem to appreciate what a marvelous clue to the origins of life viruses are. The idea has been around for some time that viruses might be evidence for (and living descendants of) RNA-World. The discovery of Mimivirus has bolstered that hypothesis.
1,873 posted on 02/17/2006 11:05:28 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I was laughing at your arrogance for assuming what God could or could not have been capable of. :)
1,874 posted on 02/17/2006 11:05:54 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Right Wing Professor
No finite number of informed responses to raving lunatics in public forums is going to forestall other raving lunatics from continuing their campaign. (Pharyngula blog comment)

Lunatic Placemarker

1,875 posted on 02/17/2006 11:06:07 AM PST by forsnax5 (The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

LOL.


1,876 posted on 02/17/2006 11:07:28 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: PatrickHenry; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Dr. Eckleburg; editor-surveyor
I have no interest in your opinions. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't ping me to your posts.

Yet you started the thread to attack Christian believers. Just because you are losing now you want to go lalala, I can't hear you. lol

1,877 posted on 02/17/2006 11:07:28 AM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The initial conditions of the earth ARE knowable. Sorry, you're just flat wrong.

Just so science at it's worst. You know this how?

Find that the Earth conditions were not suitable to the formation of life.

Prove the negative? How would you go about doing that?

Your hypothesis thus far is not falsifiable.

1,878 posted on 02/17/2006 11:08:02 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: forsnax5
True, but baiting loonies is fun.

(Blood sport, I know, but I enjoy it)

1,879 posted on 02/17/2006 11:09:46 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: xzins
Above all, what does that doctrine say about Jesus the Messiah coming in the flesh?

Then we could assign a number from the scale.

I agree! Thank you so much for your excellent posts, dear brother in Christ.
1,880 posted on 02/17/2006 11:10:01 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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